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Old Apr 12, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Im not finding alot of info out there about the adjustability ranges of some of the suspension links, arms, etc. that are available for the Z. I want to lower my car between 3-4 inches, and I have been looking at some of the specs for these arms, etc. on some of the websites, but not alot of info on adjustment range. Anyway, Im looking at the kinetix kits, spc, circuit sports, etc. Not really looking at the high end jdm stuff, dont really want to spend that much lol. Anyone have experience with these products and their adjustment range? If I dropped my car that low and wanted to get around 5 degrees of negative camber or so could I get it with the majority of the brands out there? Also looking to correct the toe to a decent range as well. Any and all feedback is welcome, as long as its helpful.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 01:54 AM
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So you want to screw your car up as much as possible for the least amount of money?
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 03:05 AM
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Lol .
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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So you want to screw your car up as much as possible for the least amount of money?
YES! Thats EXACTLY what I want to do! Can you help me out with that oh wise one???? What's the matter? Does everyone have to have the same setup here as the moderator's, otherwise, "youre wrong!" I ask a reasonable question and I get a dumbass response from a mod no less...instead of talking trash, why dont you help instead. Its appreciated. btw im not spending 700 on control arms unless they have major adjustment to them, not some 2-3 degrees and thats it. Thats why Im asking.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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^^ terrasmak is expert on suspension/tires/wheels. He’s telling you to start researching the subject.

There’s a great deal of information here, but it cannot be condensed into a single posting presented as a simple answer. The fact that you even asked about a 4” drop demonstrates your need to learn a lot about the subject.

I would read the Sticky here that explains suspensions. You also should search using keywords such as “lowering springs.”
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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We'll on the up side the lower you go the more negative camber you will achieve ....the more negative you go the more your toe gets fuked up ... They have these tires that can give you more neg camber ...
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 07:30 PM
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^^ terrasmak is expert on suspension/tires/wheels. He’s telling you to start researching the subject.

There’s a great deal of information here, but it cannot be condensed into a single posting presented as a simple answer. The fact that you even asked about a 4” drop demonstrates your need to learn a lot about the subject.

I would read the Sticky here that explains suspensions. You also should search using keywords such as “lowering springs.”
I had a full suspension setup on my GS done by UAS and battle version, I can also do the majority of the work myself. I have some idea of what I need to get where I want to be. I’m asking for specifications, I don’t need a class on suspension theory 101. I know you guys don’t get down with aggressive stances and camber etc. but some of us do. If I can get a mild amount of camber and adjustment etc. then fine that’s cool with me. I don’t want to have some stupid setup where I have neg. camber in the rear, ridiculous looking toe, and then have almost 0 to + camber in the front which I see all the time, and weak offset...Im not looking for VIP on this car. If I dont get any useful info out of this than whatever, Ill get there on my own by trying different things like Ive done in the past.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 12:16 AM
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Well most front arms are designed to add camber, how much you need to add with a 4 inch drop, no idea. I do know the car has 4.1 inches of ground clearance from factory height.

Rear arms, most are designed to correct camber from being dropped, we already have close to optimal rear camber settings from the factory.

Why most don't post the range, because the range is different all every car the parts fit on and will be different with every drop.

Just enlist in your local camber gang, they will know what to use to screw your car up. I know a lot of the Z camber gang kids use SPL and stance
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
So you want to screw your car up as much as possible for the least amount of money?
couldnt have been said any better......
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 04:51 AM
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
So you want to screw your car up as much as possible for the least amount of money?
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 05:48 PM
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Comparing camber...


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3-4 inch drop

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Old Apr 15, 2014 | 02:53 AM
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the car wouldnt be drivable being that low, i am just at an inch and speed bumps hate me, and my bumper drags coming out of some driveways, even at angles
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Old Apr 15, 2014 | 02:52 PM
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^^ Yes… Doing the math: 3.5” drop + 1.25 suspension travel = Contact with Concrete

The type of drop the OP asks about is simply a “Picture Princess.” His car will never be driven on the street. Its only purpose is to sit on a flat surface in a studio for pictures. It’s a lot of effort for a project you could do with Photoshop.
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Old Apr 15, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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I get it. The OP is going for the VIP look. I can dig that. For that type of drop and look, I'd say to bag it. But if budget is an issue...well then... I don't see much being accomplished IMO...
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