Converting OEM style coilovers to true coilovers
I've searched all over for anyone talking about this and can't really find much. I found a vendor from G35 forums that sells a converted set of BC racing coilovers which has me wondering if there is a way to convert other OEM coilovers to true coilovers.
Suspension arms. SPL , Stance, PBM and a couple others good arms available.
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Whether or not you are running OEM set-up suspension OR coilover suspension isn't what solely determines whether or not alignment correction devices are needed.
Generally, it's anything that modifies the suspension angles significantly from stock. Very low conventional springs will most likely require adjustability and even moderate lowering can/will change camber/toe angles for a variety of reasons.
Ask me how I know this.
I run a very sane, conservative street set-up on my '03 (Eibach springs - not even Sportlines - with Koni Yellows) and my front camber and rear toe went "off".
Admittedly, most people wouldn't mind the amount it went off (<2-deg camber) but it turned out a bit uneven and I didn't like what it did to my turn-in response so I opted to correct everything with SPC F&R. $550 isn't a lot to spend to get it right, IMO.
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Generally, it's anything that modifies the suspension angles significantly from stock. Very low conventional springs will most likely require adjustability and even moderate lowering can/will change camber/toe angles for a variety of reasons.
Ask me how I know this.
I run a very sane, conservative street set-up on my '03 (Eibach springs - not even Sportlines - with Koni Yellows) and my front camber and rear toe went "off".
Admittedly, most people wouldn't mind the amount it went off (<2-deg camber) but it turned out a bit uneven and I didn't like what it did to my turn-in response so I opted to correct everything with SPC F&R. $550 isn't a lot to spend to get it right, IMO.
Mic
Yeah, I definitely understand that. I'm currently staying at stock height until I get the other pieces installed so I can correct my alignment. I already have spl camber arms, spc bolts, and kinetix a arms ready for me to install when I get some time (and stop being lazy). I was asking this as a better solution for my rear toe as I don't like the idea of the spc bolts, but I think for now I'll make due until I see the need to upgrade to the spl toe arms for oem style coilovers later.
I'm still confused what you mean by "true coilover"
A coilover is a coilover... The coil is over the shock.
This is a coilover

These are the factory coilovers.

This is not a coilover. It is a spring and a shock. They are two separate things.
A coilover is a coilover... The coil is over the shock.
This is a coilover

These are the factory coilovers.

This is not a coilover. It is a spring and a shock. They are two separate things.
Nobody is talking about the engineering term for the coil over the shock. We're talking about the general term for adjustable suspension that everyone, including yourself, is familiar with.
That said, the difference between a TRUE coilover and an OEM STYLE coilover is simply what you've posted. A TRUE coilover (much like...and by much, I mean exactly like what I have) is that the spring goes over the shock in both the front and the rear. An OEM style coilover has a coil over spring design in the front and a separate coil and strut in the rear.
For everyday street use, it really doesn't make a difference which you use. 5 years ago, I didn't even know a true style existed for our cars. But, true style is way cooler...plus, you don't have people pretending they don't understand how lamens terms works.
That said, the difference between a TRUE coilover and an OEM STYLE coilover is simply what you've posted. A TRUE coilover (much like...and by much, I mean exactly like what I have) is that the spring goes over the shock in both the front and the rear. An OEM style coilover has a coil over spring design in the front and a separate coil and strut in the rear.
For everyday street use, it really doesn't make a difference which you use. 5 years ago, I didn't even know a true style existed for our cars. But, true style is way cooler...plus, you don't have people pretending they don't understand how lamens terms works.
The OEM isn't a true coilover. The OEM is Mcpherson style front (spring over strut) and separate in the rear. THAT'S what we're referring to. All systems (that I've seen) are spring over strut in the front. But, many systems are separate strut and spring in the rear. That's where the term "true" comes from. It has nothing to do with adjustability or lack thereof.
The OEM isn't a true coilover. The OEM is Mcpherson style front (spring over strut) and separate in the rear. THAT'S what we're referring to. All systems (that I've seen) are spring over strut in the front. But, many systems are separate strut and spring in the rear. That's where the term "true" comes from. It has nothing to do with adjustability or lack thereof.
All MacPherson-strut setups use a Coilover, not all Coilover setups are MacPherson-strut style. For reference on MacPherson-strut setup, lookup 240z front suspension.
Reference on the difference between a "strut" and "shock:"
http://www.1aauto.com/content/articl...cks-and-struts
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