It looks like the Tokico's are pretty close in price to the Koni's. Any suggestions which is better and why?

Thanks!

 

I am happy with my Konis. Both will be a great improvement over stock.

 

Koni, because you can adjust the rear without unhooking the strut. Oh and the are valved awesomely, although I've never used the tokico to compare.

 

I have a feeling zrude, Street Tokico pricing is lower then your aware of.


Koni sports $725
1. Twin tube construction
2. Superior valving performance to oem
3. Rebound adjustable (rate at which the spring is allowed to go back to normal state once compressed, so it is false to hear someone say, I adjusted them firmer, you can't only rebound they do not have compression dampning adjustability)
4. Adjusting them is done without removing the shocks and without having to either dismount the rear shock or figure out how to access the tops of the rear shocks.
5. Designed to have LESS compression dampning then oem 350Z shocks, they likely are between G35 coupe and Z shocks in that regard. The only way to get back that reduction of compression dampning is to either revalve or to install stiffer springs. But current aftermarket springs are rarely much stiffer then oem.
6. They use seperate removeable parts for their spring seats. In the front I understand that you can select a slighlty lower spring seat position to fine tune front ride height. Back to the seperate spring seat mounts, if you wanted to, you could use this feature to convert them to coilovers by sending them to Ground-control. That would allow someone to bi-pass the lack of truely stiffer lowering springs (not counting NissanMotorsports springs)
7. Can be revalved by any authorized Koni service center, say if they lack the compression dampning that you want. But, be forewarned, converting them to be double adjustable is scary expensive per shock.
8. Ok to run stiffer then oem spring rates with, call Koni for a specific rate limit (not to worry aftermarket Z33 lowering springs aren't much stiffer then oem anyhow, unless you do a Ground-Control coilover conversion).

Koni recap, rebound adjustable, superior shock control vs oem, adjusting can be done without rear access issues, tuned to be softer then oem 350Z shocks,

Tokico D-specs $499 shipped
1. Twin tube construction
2. Superior shock control vs oem (I drove a car with them installed)
3. Double adjustable for rebound and compression (compression is the rate at which the shock allows the spring to be compressed, upping compression dampning helps things like turn in and weight transfer issues.
4. To adjust the rear shocks you must pull the shock off the car, or figure out a way to access the top of the rear shock (proven to be possible with sedan's with the premium package) In fairness, you have to ask if you will ever really need to adjust them once they are installed
5. Valved to adjust to softer oem ride and drive quality or to be firmer then oem ride quality.
6. Ok to run stiffer then oem lower springs with.

Tokico D-spec recap, double adjustable you can pick a softer then oem ride quality or turn them up and for a firmer then oem ride and drive quality

 

adjusting the rear tokicos is really quite simple. Jack the car from the differential until the wheels are just off the ground, undo to the 2 top mounting nuts, compress the shock and swing it out from the bottom to adjust and then put it back together. plenty of room to work with the wheels on, even with eibachs, and its only 2 bolts.

 

I really want to be able to adjust in between runs which is not going to happen with the tokico's.

 

Contact Eric at SPP www.supremepowerparts.com he was doing a deal for $625 shipped for the Koni's I posted up the info a while back. He may have a few sets left.

 

Thanks for all the info. It sounds like they are comparable quality but the Koni's are easier to adjust while on the car for track type scenarios, etc. For $100 more, I think I would go with the Koni's!

 

Well looks like the info I posted was used exactly like I hoped it would be, cool.

 

Thanks d00d!

 

Compression dampening adjustability is valuable for stiffening up the ride for track use, but what benefit does adjustability of the rebound provide?

 

compression damping is how much the shock resists a bump. Changing compression changes how fast the wheel travels upward (how much the shock compresses). Rebound is the opposite.


I just ordered a set of konis from Eric@supremepowerparts.com they have 50 sets and the price is right.

 

I'm also wondering about a comment you made that the konis have less compression than OEM. Where are you getting this information? This is a pretty important piece of info and I'd like to see proof.

 

Directly from the mouth of a well known Koni factor tech, Gordon. Also if you were to search some of the first posts on the product, that fact get's brought up in some of those posts. Since I thought it mattered too, that's why I point it out. I go the kind of research that finds things like this out.