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Old 12-09-2003 | 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Cheever
I still don't know how you're arriving at 3% BELOW invoice. As you stated above, you are not a NNA employee. So, I'll price as though you bought under the C plan of VPP.
No, I'm not a NNA employee, but my friend who got me the VPP discount number IS - he's a systems engineer for Nissan. I got my discount through the Nissan employee 'friends and family' VPP plan, not the business associate plan. There might be a difference between the two which you have overlooked.

From my understanding, you price the car at dealers cost (assume $30000 ) . Then apply the discount of 2.87% ( the correct rate as of Apr 2003), such that we're now at $29139. Now add back in 2.5%.
This is where you are incorrect. The VPP discount I received was 4.2% off dealer cost. Then the 2.5% dealer fee was added, and there were no marketing fees charged. The 2.87% is the NET percentage discount that I received.

So, we're now at $29,867. Then add back in destination $545. The following fee is why I say you didn't get it below invoice. Now you must add in the marketing fee, which is somewhere around $200, which I believe depends upon region. $200 is the lowest I've seen.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. As I said - my NET discount, before destinatlon and TTL was 2.87%.

How about we settle that it costs right around invoice ? Not 3% below.
I'd be happy to settle this by showing you all of the paperwork I have showing exactly what the MSRP was and what I paid for it, which WAS around 3% BELOW invoice, but you'll probably just say I made up the numbers. So be it.

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Old 12-09-2003 | 08:04 PM
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I bought my track model under VPP plan "C" 3 weeks ago.

MSRP - 35,670
Invoice - 32,575
Less Destination - 32,035
Discount 2.87% - 919
Subtotal - 31,116
Dealer Fee 2.5% - 778
Destination - 540
Net Sales Price - 32,433

As you can see my sales price was $142 under invoice or $3,237 off of MSRP. A marketing fee was not charged in my case. The only way to get 4K off is if the dealer fee was waived, but that really isn't possible since the pricing is system generated.

Originally posted by Cheever
I still don't know how you're arriving at 3% BELOW invoice. As you stated above, you are not a NNA employee. So, I'll price as though you bought under the C plan of VPP.

From my understanding, you price the car at dealers cost (assume $30000 ) . Then apply the discount of 2.87% ( the correct rate as of Apr 2003), such that we're now at $29139. Now add back in 2.5%. So, we're now at $29,867. Then add back in destination $545. The following fee is why I say you didn't get it below invoice. Now you must add in the marketing fee, which is somewhere around $200, which I believe depends upon region. $200 is the lowest I've seen.

So ignoring destination charge, the price of the car in the above example is 29,867 + 200 =30,067 . Thus, ABOVE the invoice stated at the beginning of the example. It's even more above invoice if your dealer cost was lower than $30,000.

How about we settle that it costs right around invoice ? Not 3% below.

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Old 12-09-2003 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by jaw4n
I bought my track model under VPP plan "C" 3 weeks ago.

MSRP - 35,670
Invoice - 32,575
Less Destination - 32,035
Discount 2.87% - 919
Subtotal - 31,116
Dealer Fee 2.5% - 778
Destination - 540
Net Sales Price - 32,433

As you can see my sales price was $142 under invoice or $3,237 off of MSRP. A marketing fee was not charged in my case. The only way to get 4K off is if the dealer fee was waived, but that really isn't possible since the pricing is system generated.
Not sure what plan I fell under. All I know is, the MSRP for my '04 Touring was $36010, and I got the car for a little bit over $32000. The MSRP included a variety of factory installed options as well as some dealer-installed ones I didn't want (chromed wheels and billet grill), but wouldn't remove them.
Old 12-09-2003 | 08:45 PM
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Plan "C" is friends & family and plan "D" is business associates. I believe they are currently calculated in the same manner. Sounds like the dealer may not have correctly added back in the dealer installed items. I would look for the orginal Nissan MSRP and I would bet your discount would mirror something like mine.

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Not sure what plan I fell under. All I know is, the MSRP for my '04 Touring was $36010, and I got the car for a little bit over $32000. The MSRP included a variety of factory installed options as well as some dealer-installed ones I didn't want (chromed wheels and billet grill), but wouldn't remove them.
Old 12-09-2003 | 08:50 PM
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VPP for extended friends and family is plan C.

I'll settle for the final price is at invoice, depending on whether a marketing fee is charged.

As mention above, the numbers are system generated. I think your numbers are slighty biased since you had extra dealer installed options. I'm using numbers as generated by the VPP plan C as if you purchased now. From what others have quoted, their numbers seem more accurate.


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Old 12-10-2003 | 12:50 AM
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WHERE WAS THIS BACK WHEN THESE FIRST CAME OUT. I BOUGHT MY SUNSET Z FOR ABOUT 40G'S. OH WELL. NEXT I STHE G35 COUPE. MAYBE I CAN WORK OUT A DEAL. THANKS FOR THE INFO.
Old 12-10-2003 | 10:29 AM
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MAYBE YOU CAN PUSH CAP LOCKS.

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Old 12-10-2003 | 10:40 AM
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