Opinions on dealer installed "paint sealant"
11-13-2002 | 05:18 PM
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You are correct, rip off. I guarantee if you give them the 500 bucks, 100 bucks of it goes straight into the sales guy's pocket, they get nice commissions when they sell stuff like this.
Anyone would be much better off waxing and washing his own car if possible.
Technically, the clear coat protects the colored paint layer, you will probably blow his mind if you tell him that.
We have had like 10 threads recently, these Nissan dealers must REALLY be pushing these "sealant" packages.
EVERYONE OUT THERE!! DO NOT BUY THESE PACKAGES, CARS COST TOO MUCH AS IT IS, DO NOT PAD THE POCKETS OF THE DEALERSHIP AND SALES PEOPLE WITH DISHONEST PACKAGES LIKE THESE.
Being a person that has worked with several new and used car dealers, I think very little of these programs.
All it is is a polish/wax. Sometimes acrylic based. It doesn't last 3
months let alone three years. It's applied by the dealer or an outside shop. It costs the dealer about $10.00 if they apply it themselves or approx. $60 if farmed out to an outside shop. It's a great money marker for the dealer and salesmen joke about it all the time. The sales guy usually gets another 100.00 added on to his or her commission if they can talk the buyer into the "sealant" program. Sometimes the dealers are so nasty that they include the price of the "sealant" in the payments hidden from the buyer. The guarantee of the "sealant" is useless and hinges on the laws of average. Don't waste your money. If these systems could ever work they'd be formulated in the paint or applied at the factory.....
Most dealers will tell you about a Teflon sealant package. I welcome you to print the following and have them read it in front of you.
Teflon is bullsh$t in a wax, kinda like slick 50 is bullsh$t in a car engine.
Read on:
Dupont several years ago released a press statement about their trade mark product Teflon. In a nutshell, they said the Teflon added nothing to waxes or polishes as Teflon can and will only bond to metal while heated to very high temps. Basically what they were doing was giving a disclaimer for all of the polished and waxes hitting the market making claim after claim about how superior their product was just because it was supposed to contain Teflon. This came out about the time the debacle about PTFE resins and the Slick 50 product that also turned out to be a big farce.
I would like to point to some concrete evidence regarding Teflon. This comes from Professional Carwashing & Detailing magazine, January, 1989, page 110.
A direct quote:
My conclusion is based on the information I have gathered in the past year from representatives, lab technicians and chemists from many leading car care product companies, including Dupont, the maker of Teflon. According to G.R. Ansul of Dupont's Car Care Products Division, "The addition of a Teflon fluoropolymer
resin does nothing to enhance the properties of a car wax. We have no data that indicates the use of Teflon fluorpolymer resins is beneficial in car waxes, and we have not seen data from other people that supports this position." Ansul also notes that, "Unless Teflon is applied at 700 degrees F (371 degrees C), it is not a viable ingredient, and it is 100 percent useless in protecting the paint's finish."
As we can all see, Dupont answered this question once and for all in 1989, over 10 years ago! Let's use the advice of the manufacturer of Teflon that it is no good in a car wax (except for marketing reasons) and move on.
Anyone would be much better off waxing and washing his own car if possible.
Technically, the clear coat protects the colored paint layer, you will probably blow his mind if you tell him that.
We have had like 10 threads recently, these Nissan dealers must REALLY be pushing these "sealant" packages.
EVERYONE OUT THERE!! DO NOT BUY THESE PACKAGES, CARS COST TOO MUCH AS IT IS, DO NOT PAD THE POCKETS OF THE DEALERSHIP AND SALES PEOPLE WITH DISHONEST PACKAGES LIKE THESE.
Being a person that has worked with several new and used car dealers, I think very little of these programs.
All it is is a polish/wax. Sometimes acrylic based. It doesn't last 3
months let alone three years. It's applied by the dealer or an outside shop. It costs the dealer about $10.00 if they apply it themselves or approx. $60 if farmed out to an outside shop. It's a great money marker for the dealer and salesmen joke about it all the time. The sales guy usually gets another 100.00 added on to his or her commission if they can talk the buyer into the "sealant" program. Sometimes the dealers are so nasty that they include the price of the "sealant" in the payments hidden from the buyer. The guarantee of the "sealant" is useless and hinges on the laws of average. Don't waste your money. If these systems could ever work they'd be formulated in the paint or applied at the factory.....
Most dealers will tell you about a Teflon sealant package. I welcome you to print the following and have them read it in front of you.
Teflon is bullsh$t in a wax, kinda like slick 50 is bullsh$t in a car engine.
Read on:
Dupont several years ago released a press statement about their trade mark product Teflon. In a nutshell, they said the Teflon added nothing to waxes or polishes as Teflon can and will only bond to metal while heated to very high temps. Basically what they were doing was giving a disclaimer for all of the polished and waxes hitting the market making claim after claim about how superior their product was just because it was supposed to contain Teflon. This came out about the time the debacle about PTFE resins and the Slick 50 product that also turned out to be a big farce.
I would like to point to some concrete evidence regarding Teflon. This comes from Professional Carwashing & Detailing magazine, January, 1989, page 110.
A direct quote:
My conclusion is based on the information I have gathered in the past year from representatives, lab technicians and chemists from many leading car care product companies, including Dupont, the maker of Teflon. According to G.R. Ansul of Dupont's Car Care Products Division, "The addition of a Teflon fluoropolymer
resin does nothing to enhance the properties of a car wax. We have no data that indicates the use of Teflon fluorpolymer resins is beneficial in car waxes, and we have not seen data from other people that supports this position." Ansul also notes that, "Unless Teflon is applied at 700 degrees F (371 degrees C), it is not a viable ingredient, and it is 100 percent useless in protecting the paint's finish."
As we can all see, Dupont answered this question once and for all in 1989, over 10 years ago! Let's use the advice of the manufacturer of Teflon that it is no good in a car wax (except for marketing reasons) and move on.
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