Well, I did it. The stock 5AT number to beat (in the world)
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05-12-2005, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Hell...I don't think I've EVER seen a stock auto trap 100mph or higher until this car.
Nice run BTW!
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05-13-2005, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sins4u33
you should get out more often
Nice run BTW!
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Nice run BTW!
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05-13-2005, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
I'll put my 6-speed with me driving it up against ANY auto Z ANY day with ANY driver in the auto...
The auto isn't slow, but under equal conditions, driver skill aside..the 6-speed will always be the quicker car.
Just look at the AVERAGE traps of the 6-speed vs. the auto. The 6-speed is consistantly 2-3 mph higher. So ONE auto on ONE day got a freaking SICK 60' and ran a 13.6 with a 101.5mph trap. Great for him, but I don't think you should go around saying that the auto is just as quick as the 6-speed.
Hell...I don't think I've EVER seen a stock auto trap 100mph or higher until this car.
The auto isn't slow, but under equal conditions, driver skill aside..the 6-speed will always be the quicker car.
Just look at the AVERAGE traps of the 6-speed vs. the auto. The 6-speed is consistantly 2-3 mph higher. So ONE auto on ONE day got a freaking SICK 60' and ran a 13.6 with a 101.5mph trap. Great for him, but I don't think you should go around saying that the auto is just as quick as the 6-speed.
Hell...I don't think I've EVER seen a stock auto trap 100mph or higher until this car.
I also have 10 timeslips, only one of which did I trap below 101...I even hit 102.21 on my 13.7 pass and 102 on a few 13.9 passes where I pinged the limiter in first...The 1.9 60' is exactly that, 1.996 nothing spectacular, a couple of hundreths lower than my normal ones...So driver skill aside the 6MT is faster....how many of you are professional race drivers? This is something for the 5AT guys to refer to when the 6 speed ****'s jump up and say "oh, all sports cars should be manual, should've bought a manual, blah blah blah"
05-13-2005, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DomZ
Well, I ran a 13.7 too if that makes you feel any better I also have 10 timeslips, only one of which did I trap below 101...I even hit 102.21 on my 13.7 pass and 102 on a few 13.9 passes where I pinged the limiter in first...The 1.9 60' is exactly that, 1.996 nothing spectacular, a couple of hundreths lower than my normal ones...So driver skill aside the 6MT is faster....how many of you are professional race drivers? This is something for the 5AT guys to refer to when the 6 speed ****'s jump up and say "oh, all sports cars should be manual, should've bought a manual, blah blah blah"
I also have 10 timeslips, only one of which did I trap below 101...I even hit 102.21 on my 13.7 pass and 102 on a few 13.9 passes where I pinged the limiter in first...The 1.9 60' is exactly that, 1.996 nothing spectacular, a couple of hundreths lower than my normal ones...So driver skill aside the 6MT is faster....how many of you are professional race drivers? This is something for the 5AT guys to refer to when the 6 speed ****'s jump up and say "oh, all sports cars should be manual, should've bought a manual, blah blah blah"Your times are impressive, but VERY far form the norm. Yes you trapped over 102mph once, but look at that slip...you picked up 24mph in the second 1/8 mile, that's UNHEARD of for a stock or near stock 350Z...when I was trapping 102-103mph stock, I would pick up around 21mph in the second 1/8, as does pretty much every other Z out there. An increase in mph that significant without any additional power indicates a massive tailwind or screwed up timing lights.
Go to another track...on another day and if you can pick up 24mph in the second 1/8 THEN I will be impressed.
I'm not a 6-speed ****, I'm simply observing numbers and doing some math. The fact is...auto Z's are NOT as quick in a straight line as the 6-speeds.
05-13-2005, 05:37 PM
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When I had my dyno run, They let it cool down for awhile. Thats when I got that unusual high #s. So now I know why you ran so fast. I never did a burnout before a run. With a 1.9 60ft 13.7 is very attainable for a stock 5at Z. With perfect conditions I ran my bro 04 GTO and beat him by a little. I think with just a 3.55 ratio for the 5at low 13s is possible.
05-13-2005, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
care to link me to threads of STOCK auto Z's trapping in the 100s?? If they are around....they are VERY FEW and VERY FAR BETWEEN.
05-13-2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about pretty much all other auto Z's out there.
Your times are impressive, but VERY far form the norm. Yes you trapped over 102mph once, but look at that slip...you picked up 24mph in the second 1/8 mile, that's UNHEARD of for a stock or near stock 350Z...when I was trapping 102-103mph stock, I would pick up around 21mph in the second 1/8, as does pretty much every other Z out there. An increase in mph that significant without any additional power indicates a massive tailwind or screwed up timing lights.
Go to another track...on another day and if you can pick up 24mph in the second 1/8 THEN I will be impressed.
I'm not a 6-speed ****, I'm simply observing numbers and doing some math. The fact is...auto Z's are NOT as quick in a straight line as the 6-speeds.
Your times are impressive, but VERY far form the norm. Yes you trapped over 102mph once, but look at that slip...you picked up 24mph in the second 1/8 mile, that's UNHEARD of for a stock or near stock 350Z...when I was trapping 102-103mph stock, I would pick up around 21mph in the second 1/8, as does pretty much every other Z out there. An increase in mph that significant without any additional power indicates a massive tailwind or screwed up timing lights.
Go to another track...on another day and if you can pick up 24mph in the second 1/8 THEN I will be impressed.
I'm not a 6-speed ****, I'm simply observing numbers and doing some math. The fact is...auto Z's are NOT as quick in a straight line as the 6-speeds.
05-13-2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lowtempo
grats! Did you get alot of wheel spin of the line when you braketorqued to 2200?
Almost none, a quick skerp of the tires and I was out...
05-13-2005, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JonsilvZ
There you go even with the auto with taller gears then a 6spd. Its equally fast! How many miles do you have? How did you breakin your car?
17k miles...I bought it with 15, it has seen a lot of WOT. After reading the endless thread about the ECU and how it works, I've determined that if you tell the ECU you want to go fast more often than not, then it feeds you additional power where it can...
05-13-2005, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JonsilvZ
When I had my dyno run, They let it cool down for awhile. Thats when I got that unusual high #s. So now I know why you ran so fast. I never did a burnout before a run. With a 1.9 60ft 13.7 is very attainable for a stock 5at Z. With perfect conditions I ran my bro 04 GTO and beat him by a little. I think with just a 3.55 ratio for the 5at low 13s is possible.
I ran an auto GTO a few weeks ago and absolutely HAMMERED on him from a 20 roll and a 40 roll. It got ugly really quick and my car traps less than 1mph higher with my minimal mods.
As for low 13s with just a rear end gear change...keep dreamin.
05-15-2005, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
I wouldn't attribute the burnout on STREET TIRES to the decent 60' time. Track prep is the real key. A burnout on street tires is virtually useless.
I ran an auto GTO a few weeks ago and absolutely HAMMERED on him from a 20 roll and a 40 roll. It got ugly really quick and my car traps less than 1mph higher with my minimal mods.
As for low 13s with just a rear end gear change...keep dreamin.
I ran an auto GTO a few weeks ago and absolutely HAMMERED on him from a 20 roll and a 40 roll. It got ugly really quick and my car traps less than 1mph higher with my minimal mods.
As for low 13s with just a rear end gear change...keep dreamin.
05-15-2005, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JonsilvZ
When I run my bros GTO past 100+ he walks me easy. 20-40 he is in a dead spot for a auto 4spd with no controls of the gears. Unless he puts it in 1st gear just for that short run.
I don't think your read my post correctly. We raced from 20mph and 40mph. not FROM 20-40..that would just be retarded. On the run from 20 we were both in first gear. And I pulled him all the way up to 120mph where he was approx. 3-4 cars back. On the 40 run, he started in second and I pulled him more (since he was basically out of the powerband in second)...but he showed NO SIGN of coming back in either run...even over 100mph.
05-15-2005, 04:51 PM
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So the way he was moving the shifter is slower and really bad for the tranny. My friends GTOs auto has tranny problems because of this. Not suppose to manually shift when its not meant for it. A auto GTO runs in the 13.8@101+ or better is the norm. Just look in the LS1 forums. So they are are right up there with the Zs. I did race my friends 6spd Z(CAI,test pipes,exhaust,pulleys,19s)from a 60-120 roll we were even. To show you my Z has the topend. My bros GTO he gets me by 2cars 120+.
05-15-2005, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JonsilvZ
So the way he was moving the shifter is slower and really bad for the tranny. My friends GTOs auto has tranny problems because of this. Not suppose to manually shift when its not meant for it. A auto GTO runs in the 13.8@101+ or better is the norm. Just look in the LS1 forums. So they are are right up there with the Zs. I did race my friends 6spd Z(CAI,test pipes,exhaust,pulleys,19s)from a 60-120 roll we were even. To show you my Z has the topend. My bros GTO he gets me by 2cars 120+.
Your friend with the modded Z needs to learn how to drive.
05-15-2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
ok...a stock GTO runs high 13's @ 101...I should run low 13s @ 104-105mph now since I've added exhaust, and a lightened flywheel.
Your friend with the modded Z needs to learn how to drive.
Your friend with the modded Z needs to learn how to drive.
05-15-2005, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
As for low 13s with just a rear end gear change...keep dreamin.
05-16-2005, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DomZ
Serisouly, you posted a 13.3 with the posted mods...I will best that with my "slow" auto in a few weeks when I get some modding in (with out a diff swap), then will you stop hating on everyone?
Will you now?? BENCH RACING ROCKS!!!!
Come back when you actually run better than a 13.3 and then you can talk...and I'm not hating. I just hate seeing people make baseless claims. Like Jon on here who sees that ONE AUTOMATIC Z has run about as quick as a bunch of 6-speeds have (at a 2mph lower trap I might add) and proclaims that the auto is just as quick as the 6-speed. Yes..one guy picked up a half second with a gear change..but it was on a different day in different conditions with a different 60' and furthermore he wasn't anywhere near low 13s.