I acknowledge that production ended in 1999, but just like Nissan ended production of the R34 GT-R in 2002 but still released a 2005 R34 Z-tune, Fairlady Z's remained in many Japanese showrooms as the Z got a makeover in 1998. So yeah, I guess they had leftovers, but domestic sales during the end of production never sucked as bad as the F-body which had its long agonizing death stretched out to celebrate the 35th Anniversary edition.

How is pointing out that 1961-1999 is longer than 1967-2002 attacking the heritage of the Camaro?? If you remember your original point it was that the Z28 was in continous production longer than the Z. So when you are proved wrong you just start name calling?

 

I love putting smack down cocky idiots like you. Friggin ricer mentality "I'll put 10K worth of mod and I'll beat you".

You have what you have, whether it's stock or modded it will win or lose, who gives a shyt about what that imaginary 10k will do.

 

You tell me if I'm wrong but the actual "Z car" was not produced until 1969. Tracing a heritage to an actual car does not work for contiguous production.

Also please tell me how sales never "sucked as bad" as F-bodies? In 1996, the Z car only sold a measly 6000 units......now THAT is ****ty. GM produced 20,000+ Firebirds and somewhere around 30,000 Camaros in that same year. Now please tell me how the Z car is outselling F-bodies? F-bodies outnumbered Zs OVER 5 to 1.

 

stock vs stock who would win- z28 or 350z?

 

Depends on what gen/motor it has?

LS1 will win
LT1 drivers race

IMO.

 

True, to a point.

Forced induction on an otherwise stock car can get you reliably and smoothly faster. That's why people like it.

But still, it's not going to drive like a Porsche or Ferrari.

The point was more so that to get a "normal" car to perform like a super car at the track, you're going to sacrifice ride, reliability, and smoothness.

I'm sure that with enough money, you could make a Civic pull the same performance #'s (acceleration, braking, handling) as a Ferrari F430. But, get behind the wheel of both cars and they'll drive drastically different.

There's more to a car than just performance #s.

Of course when you start with a car that's already halfway there (350Z), and modify only a bit you can get closer without sacrificing too much.

 

Uhh.... I did.

 

I'm not quite sure how the whole "heritage" argument started. But I don't understand it. Both cars have been around for a long time. Both have a big following. Both weren't available for one reason or another in the US. Both are good performers at a decent price (moreso for the recent Z, the older one was a little expensive).

 

GET OVER YOURSELF

the Z is a classic by no means

legally it must be 25 years old

 

i know the feeling. i would rather take my time and worry about the 60

when i race competitively heads up, i have to be on slicks so i can stage with my RPMs up and drop the hammer on the second light to pull a .5XX light

we race sportsman tree here

 

The "Z-car" was the name given to the Fairlady for the American market, the 350Z is the Fairlady Z in Japan, the Fairlady began production in 1961. If you are just looking at the heritage of the car as far as it's success in the American Market then it pales in comparison to the Camaro/Firebird. No arguing there.

I choose to trace the car's heritage to it's country of origin and it's success on the global scale. Believe it or not, Nissan/Datsun has quite a bit of heritage. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/P.../fairlady.html

 

So now I drive an illegally classic car, I can just see the officer writing the ticket now

I believe the 350Z to be a classic because it gave a fresh breath to a dying market at an affordable price much like the 240Z did. I know you could care less about the import scene but the Z is the hottest thing right now. Never before have so many turbo kits and parts been available for a car in such a short time. It's dominating it's class in JGTCC racing and in import drag racing there is already a 6 sec Z on the stock block.

It also seems to have gotten the attention of the domestic crowd, whether positive or negative, it still has people's attention. I know if I thought a car really sucked I would not be wasting my time trying to convince the owners of what I thought.

 

Back in post number 37 you quoted me, not him.

 

I raced another 350Z last night from a stop and he pulled me like 3 cars, but he had a small shot of nitrious and he only raced up to like 85-90 mph.

 

legal term

It has nothing to do with a law that can be broken, but the rules of the state and their licensing rules/laws. How did you get through college?

you think a 240 is a classic? yeah about as classic as an ls1 f body.

never before has there been so many turbo kits for a new car? LMAO

you literally have no clue what you speak of.

 

My bad, I assumed that you had the capacity to understand simple arguments.

What brings a Mustang owner to Nissan forums anyway, You just have to defend its honor or something? Isn't this post about the Z28, a far superior car to the Mustang... I can't imagine any reason I'd have to join a Ford forum, but who knows I may end up with lots of free time someday and lose my sanity.

 

Good enough. I agree, both cars have a great heritage and there is no point in arguing about it.



Open wound, salt.....

 

Most of the mustang forums i have grown tired of over a year ago. 3 years of answering the same questions and having to debate with others over the true answer, 4.10s versus 3.73s, x pipe versus H pipe, which aftermarket heads to buy, etc etc.


hmm.... what am i doing on a z forums





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Personally, I like the Mustang, I also like early Z/28s. The problem is I want a car that is fairly uncommon. Vettes, Mustangs, Z/28s are all far too common around here anyway.

 

I don't know, I wouldn't call any mass produced cars uncommon. I guess if you don't see much of X cars in a particular region that could be considered as being uncommon but as a whole, it isn't uncommon.