also your car weighs sub 3200 with you in it? how much do you weigh and what did you do to lighten it up? BTW i didnt think headers made any sort of difference powerwise.... whats with that

i see the e-manage did some good on that setup so that makes sense.

 

BUZZ!!!

gtechs dont count

 

i dont get it, you guys say a 290sihrrwhp Z could run high 12s, but in another thread, people were saying its hard or near impossible to get a voteched Z into the 12s...

 

It's not about peak hp, rather the shape of the power curve and S/C setups have a power curve that drops off near the top-end.

 

I'm not arguing with you, as I honestly don't really know, but could you provide more of an explanation. The vortech is a centrifugal supercharger; and centrifugals are built for one purpose: top-end. So... what am I not getting here?

 

HEADERS.... That is the BIGGEST power gain for N/A.... have you seen the stock manifold?????? THe headers allow The Engine to relase air Quickly and more air goes through, And I dont have subs anymore.. took them out.. Took out spare tire, all of the tire tools, stock crap, cats, rims, and i weigh 145!

 

there is no reason for a vortech z to not run 12s unless you make less than 300 rwhp for some odd reason.

what happens is alot of these guys that get S/Cs are the type that want instant gratification and dont have a planned out combo, so one could assume they arent the best drag racer in the world either.

People run 12s at 106-108 N/A so obviouslt if you bolted an S trim on that setup you would go alot faster. on reasonable boost you will trap 114-118 on that same combo and run low 12s. slicks should net the faster car high 11s in the hands of a good driver.

most guys dont understand exactly how much power it takes to go XX.XX et

if peopel would work on hooking their car up first and learning to drive, they would be alot faster when they add power. Too many people bandaid their driving and setup with gobs of power. then someone competant comes along and kicks their as s with less power and people on the internet call bs and start crying.

This is what we probably see with the stillen cars. the majority of stillen S/C owners are a different type of car enthusiest. One thing you have to understand about the stillen is it may not put up the best ets and mph in those cars, but you know that car is hella fun around town with that low end boost, and thats what its all about. If you autocross, road race or daily drive. it would be a fun little setup. sure there are many stillen cars getting beat by N/A cars, It is not the s/c fault. Put a stillen on alberto or Integrity's car and see what it does.

 

+1 I would love to take a Stillen set-up down the track, and I agree, we dont have enough good drivers representing the s/c Z's.

 

all you need is a 240-250rwhp z with 3300lb race weight to go 12's

 

no way is that statement accurate. you're basically saying that a strong stock z could run 12's

 

I dont think that statement is wrong. It just needs to hook up. With a trap speed of about 106-107 you should and could be running a high 12. Alberto has already come close to that when he was N/A. Its just not as easy as some people think to drive your car to a 12 second pass.

 

wow. there must be alot of pot smokers on this site. 40 extra ponies to the rear wheels dipping into the 12's? i dont think so. even if i saw a time slip (which i am sure there isnt one), a video, and god, i still wouldnt believe it.
i pulled 13.9 @ 102 in my stock 04 Z a couple of years ago, which is better than most mag drivers, but i dont see 40 more hp knocking off a full second in my 1/4 time.
with a 100 shot of nitro on street tires and a 1.9 60' i managed a 13.1 @108. sorry, i just cant and wont believe high 12's with 287rwhp (unless it's completely gutted and has carbon fiber body work).

 

hey man, dont put your foot in your mouth, there are a few NA Zs that ran 12s. although mine was gutted, i only had 256 to the wheels when i did it...


if alberto didnt launch like a little boy on a Power Wheels, his trap shows he could have ran 12s..

my best was 12.90 at 106, its very possible, that was with 256. sorry about your traction issues on 100 shot, i ran low 12s with full interior on my 100 shot, then 11.8s with 150 shot and gutted, would have been even faster if i didnt run out of 4th gear every run

 

What if I have nismo stickers?

Edit... I forgot about those super sticky slicks, negative DA's, and downhill tracks. My bad.

 

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=15

 

Mr Mayhem,
I understand you are "the man" on this site when it comes to racing Z's and i give you full respect, and will always listen to what you say and take note, honestly. However, i really find it hard to believe (well, i just dont believe it) a Z WITH stock wheel size and stock interior can pull a sub 13 second pass with 287rwhp.
if a stock 03-04 cobra only pulls 12.8 with 375rwhp, there is no way a Z with 290 can get close. understand there is a weight difference, but its not that much.
on my run with the juice i had no wheel spin at all. 18 inch wheels. 1.9 60 wouldnt indicate much wheel spin either. Car was missing nothing (spare and half tank gas included) and had little extra weight in it other than my 180lb frame. 40k miles. my car dyno'd at 237/221 stock. juiced with not so warm a bottle 305/315.
oh...hey man, my foot wont fit anyway.

one last thing....your runs of low 12's on 100 shot...on slicks or DR's and 15 inch wheels. yes?
peace!

Rick

 

Mr. Blububble,
I understand that you are new to the fourm and you are considered "a noob" so I am going to take everything you have said with a grain of salt. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, as you clearly have not seen what some people have run with well put N/A setups. Thats all fine and well that you think a Z with 287whp cant pull a sub 13 sec pass, but audible has already told you that he did that with just under 260whp. There will be a few more Z owners to due it this spring when tracks reopen. I assure you of this. Im not sure what you are trying to say by stock wheel size and all, but some have done it on dr's and others have used slicks.

For those Cobra owners with 375whp who cant seem to break into 12's, well quite frankly I feel bad for them, and perhaps drag racing isnt in their future.

Also, on your last statement. Im just not very sure what you are trying to say honestly.
Peace!

Paul

 

i went 12.9 with 250 rwhp with a 1.7 60' at 3500 lbs in 1000' DA's.

of course the car needs to be more drag friendly, but i know a z could do it with the right guy and set up. i saw jeremy going low 13's at 105+ on 18's NA(im pretty sure they were the bronze wheels with dr's) in the heat of the summer here. thats easy 12's on slicks in good weather

edit: i forgot you suck at drag racing anyway. sucking at something that takes no skill must really suck

roast, i think i am starting to like you.

i just want some z guys to throw a couple of bolt ons on and go 12's with tire. a street tired bolt on z is definitely a possibility IMO

 

who's the @ss clown that bumped up this old thread?

 

I don't know why you keep claiming that I suck at drag racing. You don't know me or what I'm capable of as a driver.

I don't much care for the sport of drag racing, although I have absolutely nothing against people who do. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you need to throw personal attacks at me. If you want your nose broke dude the internet ain't the place.

I'd much prefer lapping you anyway.