If you're running well over 600whp, then you're missing some trap somewhere.

 

I would have to dissagree. with all the HP calculations I have done and everyone I have consulted said the car should go 10.5-10.7 given the weight and HP of the car. Just to give you an example, last time I went to the track I was about 80-100whp shy of where I am now. I ran a 11.98 @121 with a 2.0 60 ft....The very next run I ran 11.68 @123 with a 1.90 60 ft.. so .1 on the 60 made a .3 difference on the 1/4. This is shy some HP from now..So why would it not be feasable to cut a 1.6 60 ft and run a 10.7??

 

That's wild, with my turbo kit and a full take of gas my car weighed 3297 with me in 3477. I have the touring as well, and I forgot to take almost 60 lbs worth of stuff out or my hatch, tire inflator, bookbag and a few other things in the cab.

 

I dont know man..I had a full cage, Stereo Equipment and full tank of gas plus my fat ***..Unless The larget track in the North East had a broken scale??

 

Wow never thought Id see ricer drag math from an MRC guy! Obviously what you experienced on that 2nd run was more than just a better 60ft you likely hit your shifts better as well, you cant count on a .1 reduction in 60ft to equal a .3 reduction in 1/4 times in the future because you've had that in the past. Every time you go, every pass you make, will be different. Please dont take some of these comments negatively, and dont bring Jason's times into all of this either. You bringing up his time has no relevance in your times-sorry I just hate when people say "well he did so and so, so if I...Ill do XX" see where Im going? No doubt in my mind you will improve next time out, but go little by little man, setting a 10.5-10.7 goal off the bat is hard, shoot for 11.5 next and so on. BTW-this trap indicates the true power your car is making (high 500's-low 600's) not the 670whp or whatever it is you guys are correcting your dyno to and claiming.

 

LOL...Typical response given you signature..Im so sick of these forums and the way the threads go..If you RE-READ the original post, it basically says in a nut shell, the car has the power to go 10's, the DRIVER sucks..Jasons time are in fact relavant as to guage the time I will make up given certain HP,traction,and weight of the vehicle...
If its my HP levels your questioning, I Might be in MD on the 29th at the active meet, we can go from a highway pull if you would like?
PS, if people want to call BS, why dont they just call BS then??

 

Why would I call BS when I know the "actual" numbers? I thought it was Jason that had posted it (580whp) may it was you? No offense to you-but I think Jason is a better driver, so you see my point in using him as a measuring stick doesnt prove helpful in your estimates?...unless of course your letting him drive. Im sure you know my situation with my car-for you to ask me if I want to go for a pull would be like somebody asking Jason to run them in his Z-which would be stupid knowing his Z is not in good shape right now My intentions were not to upset you, just to state my opinions-after all thats what forums are for...

 

I know Jason is a better driver, that was the whole point of this thread..I stated in the first post of this thread, that I suck..Im sure if I put a driver with more track time and 100lbs lighter than me, the car would go much faster..
This is my whole point..My CAR is capable of 10's, I am NOT..No ricer math there, the car has the power to go 10's simple as that.
Also where did Jason or me post my car was 580??

 

As Alberto said...that's ricer math. What you're not figuring into the equation there is the extra 2mph of trap on the next pass added to the 1 tenth reduction in 60'. If you didn't have that extra 2mph you wouldn't have picked up 3 tenths E.T. with the 1 tenth better 60...that's just common sense. So NO, you will not pick up anywhere NEAR 3 tenths for every 1 tenth you cut off your 60'.

 

You don't have a 10 second car until you have a 10 second timeslip. I don't care how many "calculators" you use. You ***** about the direction this thread went when you asked for it from the very beginning with your title. "I own a 10 second Z!!!!". Which in itself was a blatent lie just to get people to read it.

Tell me...what did you really expect when you posted up a misleading title and then PREDICTED via ricer math that you have a mid 10 second car????

 

Now thats reverse ricer math... I tell you what, Ill just keep quiet until I do a 10 second pass..
Cause obviously for whatever reason , you guys can not phathom the fact that Jasone times as a comparison do have a relation to my car's capabilities of going a high 10 second pass..Like I sade, Jason ran 11.5 with a 1.68 60 ft..My car makes over 200whp more than Jasons and traps almost 10mph faster than his..If drivers were equal, why is it so hard to understand that my car would go almost a second faster?
I just dont get the debate?Its like your either calling BS on me or Hatin for some reason?WTF?

 

Now you just showed me that your hatin on me....Whats your problem bro?

 

The bolded statement I quote sounds like the best idea you've had yet.

For the THIRD time...I NEVER SAID THAT YOUR CAR WASN'T CAPABLE OF A 10 SECOND PASS. I said that 10.5-10.7 was a pipe dream with 127mph and the gearing of the 6-speed.

I'm not calling BS on anything. There's NOTHING to call BS on. You haven't run a 10 second pass and haven't claimed to, so how could I call BS??

Simply put; don't make predictions about what you "should" run in your car. It will only lead to disappointment down the road.

I'm not "hatin" on anyone, I just want you to realize that threads like this are retarded. Didn't you see what happened to Audible when he "predicted" what he would run?

 

Another thing I dont understand..And no offense to the names I am about to mention...
Sharif posts up a 600+ hp Dyno, on 550cc injectors, and no one questions him......
JWT TT owners claim to make 480whp at 6 or 7 psi with stock injectors yet decline a free dyno, no one questions them...
VRT post up some ludicrous 700+ hp numbers on a stock fuel system/Daily driver car..No one questions them.......
People selling a bolt kit, that claims to cure headlift....Everyone jumps on a group buy, and once again, no one questions them....
Someone claims to have hit 314 whp N/A, people question him, but the thread dies and is forgotten...No on questions him...
There are alot of amazing developments happening every day in the Z community, and some of it is simply amazing to say the least..
Yet I simply state, that my car has 10 second "POTENTIAL" never did I LIE as you claimed, or mislead anyone in any way..Nor did I state that I had run a 10 second pass..Furthermore, I went on the record as saying, my driving skills suck..So where am I being misleading?
Optomistic, maybe....Hopefull, yeah that to...Misleading, I dont think so..
To all the people I mentioned above, the forum celebrated and said "GREAT JOB" and that was that..So why is it I am met with resentment on the boards? Why am I being questioned? What are your motivations to discredit me??
I suppose I could just post up when I do run a 10 second pass, but what would be the point, the trolls will just come out and say the timeslip is a fake..
There really is no point in arguing on these forums anymore..

 

Ricer math at its best...

 

on the moon!!!



hehehe keep this thread nice guys!! we are all in the same boat here, we all like going fast, we all like the power in the VQ, and we all are into drag racing....

brian, why you draggin me into this!!!

 

That is the key point you never mentioned before-that I mentioned before you. I agree on the 10 sec car title and comments Brian made-you dont have it until you do it, not your buddy, not anybody, why cant people drive their own cars?! Bottom line is right now you have a high 11 sec car-and your telling people your car can go mid 10's thats a FAR FAR stretch for anybody but a newb to believe. My car can go to the moon if I add 2 turbonators and a flux capacitor

Regarding dyno's, many shops use a BS "correction" - myself and Jason both flamed the guy claiming 314whp NA because of his dynojet correction being used so dont know why you think no one questioned him. I have stated a few times I think VRT's dynos are BS-all of their cars produce 600ft/lbs @ 2800rpm's, they are adjusting numbers. I could put a hamster on a wheel on VRT's dyno and it would put down 300whp. Many other shops who use Dyno Dynamics dyno's use a 10-13% "dynojet" correction, which is BS. I may be mistaken, I remember you or Jason posting something in the tuning thread something along the lines of "MRC has done it again 6XXwhp" I thought that was your car if not I apologize. Your shop stated 660+whp with a gay a$$ correction (that you once flamed people for) at a low a$$ boost level. While that may be good for bragging rights and good at attracting newbs to your shop, you lose the respect of knowledgable forum members when you inflate numbers. In that thread I asked for the actual numbers they were 580whp-thats more like it. If that wasnt you rcar what are your uncorrected actual whp nubers? As far as Sharif goes, 2 guys recently posted high numbers from his newly aquired DD unit, I myself posted in both that the correction was BS, Sharif-being a stand up guy and not wanting to lead people on, publically admitted he won tbe using ANY correction other than an SAE for temp/humidity in the future.

 

we need video!!!!! is that NA or shoving a turbonator up his a$$....

 

They way they load up their dyno a hamster wouldnt need a turbonator to do it

 

I guess if they figure they can discredit you people will think you're a fraud. Kinda dumb in my opinion since ive never seen you once post up anything that wasnt fact. This whole thread was an opinion from the jump. I guess they are mad that their car cant thrown down 673 whp. Thas all

-drops mic