Why's the NSX faster?
#21
Originally Posted by Nihilation
The night before I sold the car I raced a stock C5 Z06 from a light. At 60mph he had me by a car length, and he slowely pulled another one by the time we hit ~120...
#22
I think the NSX is fast for the same reason why the Z06 is such a monster given its specs.. It seems like one of those rare cars that have something extra about them that just makes everything work together in harmony really.
With the MkIV Supra, it is the engine, but with the Z06 and the NSX, i think as was mentioned above, it was the combination of engine, drivetrain, weight, aero, etc that just go together so well to create such a beast for the specs it has.
With the MkIV Supra, it is the engine, but with the Z06 and the NSX, i think as was mentioned above, it was the combination of engine, drivetrain, weight, aero, etc that just go together so well to create such a beast for the specs it has.
#27
Most NSX's dyno 255-275, for the 3.2 liter (97+) -the 3 I've seen dyno atleast.
The older ones with the 3.0 are around .6/.7 slower in the 1/4 mile. 3.2's run 13.2 ish, seen some 12.8-12.9's stock with good tires. Anyways, 3.2 liter ones are underrated big time.
Always remember the drivetrain loss is almost nothing in them, rear engine, rear drive.
I/H/E usually put the newer ones just under 300 hp, Headers being the big gainer: 15-20whp
The older ones with the 3.0 are around .6/.7 slower in the 1/4 mile. 3.2's run 13.2 ish, seen some 12.8-12.9's stock with good tires. Anyways, 3.2 liter ones are underrated big time.
Always remember the drivetrain loss is almost nothing in them, rear engine, rear drive.
I/H/E usually put the newer ones just under 300 hp, Headers being the big gainer: 15-20whp
#28
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I own an NSX right now and a 350z and I can tell you that the 350z is almost dead even with the NA1. NA2 you wont stand a chance...
Normal dynos for the NA2 are around..
255-270hp and tq is around 210-218
Normal dynos for the NA1 are around...
240-250 hp and tq is around 195-205
Some S2000 owners think that the AP1 is near the performance of the NA1 which it IS NOT. I owned an AP1 and I would walk away from them stock VS stock. AP2 I would still walk away but it would be a little closer.
So bottom line is the 350z is just about equal to a NA1 but not an NA2.
Normal dynos for the NA2 are around..
255-270hp and tq is around 210-218
Normal dynos for the NA1 are around...
240-250 hp and tq is around 195-205
Some S2000 owners think that the AP1 is near the performance of the NA1 which it IS NOT. I owned an AP1 and I would walk away from them stock VS stock. AP2 I would still walk away but it would be a little closer.
So bottom line is the 350z is just about equal to a NA1 but not an NA2.
#29
The Nsx weighs 3150 pounds..Thats around 200 pounds less that the 350Z..
they dyno anywere from 245-265 rwhp bone stock on the 97-05 models..
bone stock NSX's have ran 12.9 at 108 mph on more than one ocassion..
My friends bone stock 05 NSX ran dead even from a 70-110 mph roll race against my 378 rwhp automatic C5 vette ( 2004)..
On a 30-110 roll race my friends stock NSX will loose by around 4 cars to my bone stock 410 rwhp and 465 rwt 99 viper...
that to me is very impressive since most cars ( including a stock C5) would be a tiny dot in my rear view from 70-110 mph..
How do they do it with only 250 rwhp?????
-.28-30 drag for starters is an amazing C5 or C6 vette like number
-3150 pounds is an amazing C5Z06 like weight
-But the thing that really dose it is the decent rwhp tied in with the great arodynamics and light weight is the INCREDIBLE 4.06 rear gears and LLLooong rpm's..
Imagine if C5 vettes had 4.06 gears instead of 3.42's and weighed 150 pounds less....You'd basicly have an NSX...
You will never know how fast the 97-05 NSX is with only 250 rwhp till you ride with some what and they punch it at 70 mph..My jaw dropped.
they dyno anywere from 245-265 rwhp bone stock on the 97-05 models..
bone stock NSX's have ran 12.9 at 108 mph on more than one ocassion..
My friends bone stock 05 NSX ran dead even from a 70-110 mph roll race against my 378 rwhp automatic C5 vette ( 2004)..
On a 30-110 roll race my friends stock NSX will loose by around 4 cars to my bone stock 410 rwhp and 465 rwt 99 viper...
that to me is very impressive since most cars ( including a stock C5) would be a tiny dot in my rear view from 70-110 mph..
How do they do it with only 250 rwhp?????
-.28-30 drag for starters is an amazing C5 or C6 vette like number
-3150 pounds is an amazing C5Z06 like weight
-But the thing that really dose it is the decent rwhp tied in with the great arodynamics and light weight is the INCREDIBLE 4.06 rear gears and LLLooong rpm's..
Imagine if C5 vettes had 4.06 gears instead of 3.42's and weighed 150 pounds less....You'd basicly have an NSX...
You will never know how fast the 97-05 NSX is with only 250 rwhp till you ride with some what and they punch it at 70 mph..My jaw dropped.
#30
Originally Posted by C5's are better
The Nsx weighs 3150 pounds..Thats around 200 pounds less that the 350Z..
they dyno anywere from 245-265 rwhp bone stock on the 97-05 models..
bone stock NSX's have ran 12.9 at 108 mph on more than one ocassion..
My friends bone stock 05 NSX ran dead even from a 70-110 mph roll race against my 378 rwhp automatic C5 vette ( 2004)..
On a 30-110 roll race my friends stock NSX will loose by around 4 cars to my bone stock 410 rwhp and 465 rwt 99 viper...
that to me is very impressive since most cars ( including a stock C5) would be a tiny dot in my rear view from 70-110 mph..
How do they do it with only 250 rwhp?????
-.28-30 drag for starters is an amazing C5 or C6 vette like number
-3150 pounds is an amazing C5Z06 like weight
-But the thing that really dose it is the decent rwhp tied in with the great arodynamics and light weight is the INCREDIBLE 4.06 rear gears and LLLooong rpm's..
Imagine if C5 vettes had 4.06 gears instead of 3.42's and weighed 150 pounds less....You'd basicly have an NSX...
You will never know how fast the 97-05 NSX is with only 250 rwhp till you ride with some what and they punch it at 70 mph..My jaw dropped.
they dyno anywere from 245-265 rwhp bone stock on the 97-05 models..
bone stock NSX's have ran 12.9 at 108 mph on more than one ocassion..
My friends bone stock 05 NSX ran dead even from a 70-110 mph roll race against my 378 rwhp automatic C5 vette ( 2004)..
On a 30-110 roll race my friends stock NSX will loose by around 4 cars to my bone stock 410 rwhp and 465 rwt 99 viper...
that to me is very impressive since most cars ( including a stock C5) would be a tiny dot in my rear view from 70-110 mph..
How do they do it with only 250 rwhp?????
-.28-30 drag for starters is an amazing C5 or C6 vette like number
-3150 pounds is an amazing C5Z06 like weight
-But the thing that really dose it is the decent rwhp tied in with the great arodynamics and light weight is the INCREDIBLE 4.06 rear gears and LLLooong rpm's..
Imagine if C5 vettes had 4.06 gears instead of 3.42's and weighed 150 pounds less....You'd basicly have an NSX...
You will never know how fast the 97-05 NSX is with only 250 rwhp till you ride with some what and they punch it at 70 mph..My jaw dropped.
#31
Originally Posted by Armitage
^I thought I read turboing NSX's is difficult because its tough to mount an intercooler and get proper air flow for it. Because of this, I read superchargers were the way to go.
same brand I will be going to for my mustang
I could go SC for half the price but some part of me wants a wave of 550+ ft/lbs of torque at the wheels
#32
Originally Posted by C5's are better
You will never know how fast the 97-05 NSX is with only 250 rwhp till you ride with some what and they punch it at 70 mph..My jaw dropped.
Though, i have raced the car in question and pulled him while spilling my dr pepper at 120 Of course i just drive a mustang and you need like 800 to the wheels for it to be impressive
#33
Originally Posted by Nihilation
My 91 NSX ran 14.0 @ 104mph with an RM intake and ZTek catback. It had 90k miles on the 3.0L 5-speed with the horrible gearing(1st gear to 45, 2nd to 82mph, 3rd to 120)... the car didn't move until you were over 60mph. From a highway roll I would creep away from stock C5 Vettes.
The night before I sold the car I raced a stock C5 Z06 from a light. At 60mph he had me by a car length, and he slowely pulled another one by the time we hit ~120...
The night before I sold the car I raced a stock C5 Z06 from a light. At 60mph he had me by a car length, and he slowely pulled another one by the time we hit ~120...
#34
Originally Posted by Miko
Came across a cool site comparing sports cars. Then, looking at the NSX, it has 290bhp & 224lb-ft. Weighing the same as a Z, but having (little) less HP and (much) less TQ, why would it be faster? Is it the gearing or something that makes considerable difference?
Woops, here's the web link: http://www.allfastcars.com/acura-nsx.shtml
Woops, here's the web link: http://www.allfastcars.com/acura-nsx.shtml
I would rather check the numbers @ www.globalcar.com or www.carfolio.com - which are more credible sites IMHO.