First shelby gt 500 in the 9's
Highly doubt Ford would invest money into development on this car and have a couple botlons make the motor blow. A friend of mine works at a mustang shop and they built the Falken drift mustang, stock motor and blown around
5xxwhp and its running fine for a few years now. And by stock I mean internally.
5xxwhp and its running fine for a few years now. And by stock I mean internally.
I went to their forum and read for more info regarding this Stock Gt 500 and stated I think on page 3 states the car had lost weight due to weight reduction... Great numbers but to me numbers aren't everything plus having the same car as 5 million other drivers is boring...
Originally Posted by JG 350Z
Wonder if any weight reduction was done, that was the biggest issue, 4000+ for the coupe, I heard someone already got 800rwhp. BTW there are selling for about 30K over sticker.
Thread below has link to Kenne Bell video:
https://my350z.com/forum/other-vehicles/235820-gt500-is-getting-bigger-teeth.html
Originally Posted by Alberto
Awesome job on that car. Funny how that 9 second car pulled a 1.5 60ft obviously launching HARD, and yet people still believe a certain NA Z ran a 1.5 60ft with 260whp (see #1 slot in sticky thread to laugh at BS)....
there is no way. Im not doubting the timeslip. but i think there was some kind of error
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I went to their forum and read for more info regarding this Stock Gt 500 and stated I think on page 3 states the car had lost weight due to weight reduction... Great numbers but to me numbers aren't everything plus having the same car as 5 million other drivers is boring...
No hating here just stating the facts on the claims..
Ok think of this, what if someone bought a new gtr and installed bolts-on just like they did with the gt 500?? I'll bet the results would be same if not better due to the car already being fi and lots of room for improvement. One things for sure, you will never having any problems finding parts for mustangs....
Ok think of this, what if someone bought a new gtr and installed bolts-on just like they did with the gt 500?? I'll bet the results would be same if not better due to the car already being fi and lots of room for improvement. One things for sure, you will never having any problems finding parts for mustangs....
Originally Posted by brooke
No bashing here just correcting the Stock gt 500 9 sec run..
Now imagine if the car only weighed around 3200lbs...
Now imagine if the car only weighed around 3200lbs...80-90K for a 9 Sec car seems a little overpriced if thats all your after
45K + 30K markup + mods, plus tax
You could build several vehicles into the 9's for less money, take your pick really
Nice car but really, they always go to englishtown on the coolest days to run their best times ---- gearing was changed too I bet
Standard drag racing prep I understand but 500whp out of a blown motor that big isnt like OMG amazing --- cool 9 sec ride yes
What about the 9 Sec street tire EVO's? lol 2.0L 4cyl rides
Whats funny is the stock times for GT500's are like high 12's @114 and I think it was Road and Track that called it a "Super Car" had me laughing so hard....hell an AMG E55 will run mid 12's@116-118 with 4 doors so I guess we better call that thing a super car too LMFAO
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I spent well over 80 k on my Z and it is nowhere near 9 seconds...
Evo's are AWD that simply doesn't count for me
Any car magazine posts horrible 1/4 numbers according to them a Z runs I think high 14's even though plenty of people got them into the 13's stock...
bottomline to me is that the Shelby is a cool car and probably the best and most reliable Mustang out there.
The mark up sucks though and that should be illegal, tired of that ****. car dealers and news reporters need to go to hell
Evo's are AWD that simply doesn't count for me
Any car magazine posts horrible 1/4 numbers according to them a Z runs I think high 14's even though plenty of people got them into the 13's stock...
bottomline to me is that the Shelby is a cool car and probably the best and most reliable Mustang out there.
The mark up sucks though and that should be illegal, tired of that ****. car dealers and news reporters need to go to hell
Originally Posted by mrtomcat
I spent well over 80 k on my Z and it is nowhere near 9 seconds...
Evo's are AWD that simply doesn't count for me
Any car magazine posts horrible 1/4 numbers according to them a Z runs I think high 14's even though plenty of people got them into the 13's stock...
bottomline to me is that the Shelby is a cool car and probably the best and most reliable Mustang out there.
The mark up sucks though and that should be illegal, tired of that ****. car dealers and news reporters need to go to hell
Evo's are AWD that simply doesn't count for me
Any car magazine posts horrible 1/4 numbers according to them a Z runs I think high 14's even though plenty of people got them into the 13's stock...
bottomline to me is that the Shelby is a cool car and probably the best and most reliable Mustang out there.
The mark up sucks though and that should be illegal, tired of that ****. car dealers and news reporters need to go to hell

TT + sleeved motor + TH350/400 + slicks + 1000+whp = One fast *** Z
You wanna break down where you spent 90K for us, feel free cause I am curious as hell
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you are assuming that everything works great the first time and nothing ever goes wrong....that is just not the case. Here's a high level break down of what I've spent so far:
350z: 33000
APS TT: 7500
Exhaust, test pipes...: 2000
install: 3000
several tunes: 1500
wheels, tires: about 3000 (different sets)
repairs after hitting the wall: 3000
suspension work: 3000
racelogic: 4000
methanol kit plus install: 1000
two sets of JWT clutches 1500
build engine: 12000
fcon: 5000
ATS Clutch 2000
install: 6000
axles + install 1000
replace broken axles 800
tuning: 2000
a few other goodies like gauges/line locks and so: 2000
now let's add 1000 for racing insurance on top of regular insurance
Towing costs 600
and currently I need a new set of Stage V axles plus install 2000
now my ABS system is broken....I'm guessing another 1000
and of course the HKS Navigotor needs to be installed plus tuned another 1000
total $95900
Best time 12.06 at 120....and then blown axles. Now keep in mind that southern california has high elevation 1/4 tracks so this would have been around a 11.3 at a sea level track
any questions?
oh, the car dynoed at 608whp
350z: 33000
APS TT: 7500
Exhaust, test pipes...: 2000
install: 3000
several tunes: 1500
wheels, tires: about 3000 (different sets)
repairs after hitting the wall: 3000
suspension work: 3000
racelogic: 4000
methanol kit plus install: 1000
two sets of JWT clutches 1500
build engine: 12000
fcon: 5000
ATS Clutch 2000
install: 6000
axles + install 1000
replace broken axles 800
tuning: 2000
a few other goodies like gauges/line locks and so: 2000
now let's add 1000 for racing insurance on top of regular insurance
Towing costs 600
and currently I need a new set of Stage V axles plus install 2000
now my ABS system is broken....I'm guessing another 1000
and of course the HKS Navigotor needs to be installed plus tuned another 1000
total $95900
Best time 12.06 at 120....and then blown axles. Now keep in mind that southern california has high elevation 1/4 tracks so this would have been around a 11.3 at a sea level track
any questions?
oh, the car dynoed at 608whp
Originally Posted by SergEK
A 27K Z with 60K invested would have no choice to run 9s properly driven and executed --- I am sorry your results may differ
TT + sleeved motor + TH350/400 + slicks + 1000+whp = One fast *** Z
You wanna break down where you spent 90K for us, feel free cause I am curious as hell
TT + sleeved motor + TH350/400 + slicks + 1000+whp = One fast *** Z
You wanna break down where you spent 90K for us, feel free cause I am curious as hell
Last edited by mrtomcat; Dec 26, 2006 at 03:15 PM.
Wow, thats some serious money spent. You did have some bad luck though, with the broken axles, and needing clutch replacements. Installs alone have run you over $10k easily. Then you have a $3000 repair for hitting the wall. Perhaps you shouldve bought a body kit, and a system and called it a day. You just had some seriously bad luck.
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Originally Posted by bacalhau16
Wow, thats some serious money spent. You did have some bad luck though, with the broken axles, and needing clutch replacements. Installs alone have run you over $10k easily. Then you have a $3000 repair for hitting the wall. Perhaps you shouldve bought a body kit, and a system and called it a day. You just had some seriously bad luck.

Point being No, it's not just bad luck going fast especially in a car that was not designed for it, it takes time, practise and lots of money. The more power the car makes the more parts will brake and the less examples to learn from are there the more you have to experience.
There are less than 5 350z people that have gotten into the 10's let alone 9's and with people sharing their experiences others will have a better time if they pay attention.
I have been one of the front runners in trying things out in order to reach these goals and because of it I had to pay a lot of money for it. And more importantly the frustration....my god it is soooo frustrating. I know my car has 9 seconds in it but it's not quite there yet. Hopefully the next year will get me there but it's not as easy as buy a part here and there and you're in the 9's it's difficult from a drivers persective, it's expensive and it's dangerous.
Yes, I understand that being one of the first to do things is more costly. You were making some really good numbers too, just more reason for more things to break so I understand. I realistically would like to have a Z with about 400whp or so, and that handled really well. My cost of build will not even come close to rivaling yours I hope.
Good luck with your car in the future. With over 600whp and some good driving, 9's should be doable. Good luck again!
Good luck with your car in the future. With over 600whp and some good driving, 9's should be doable. Good luck again!
Originally Posted by mrtomcat
you are assuming that everything works great the first time and nothing ever goes wrong....that is just not the case. Here's a high level break down of what I've spent so far:
350z: 33000
APS TT: 7500
Exhaust, test pipes...: 2000
install: 3000
several tunes: 1500
wheels, tires: about 3000 (different sets)
repairs after hitting the wall: 3000
suspension work: 3000
racelogic: 4000
methanol kit plus install: 1000
two sets of JWT clutches 1500
build engine: 12000
fcon: 5000
ATS Clutch 2000
install: 6000
axles + install 1000
replace broken axles 800
tuning: 2000
a few other goodies like gauges/line locks and so: 2000
now let's add 1000 for racing insurance on top of regular insurance
Towing costs 600
and currently I need a new set of Stage V axles plus install 2000
now my ABS system is broken....I'm guessing another 1000
and of course the HKS Navigotor needs to be installed plus tuned another 1000
total $95900
Best time 12.06 at 120....and then blown axles. Now keep in mind that southern california has high elevation 1/4 tracks so this would have been around a 11.3 at a sea level track
any questions?
oh, the car dynoed at 608whp
350z: 33000
APS TT: 7500
Exhaust, test pipes...: 2000
install: 3000
several tunes: 1500
wheels, tires: about 3000 (different sets)
repairs after hitting the wall: 3000
suspension work: 3000
racelogic: 4000
methanol kit plus install: 1000
two sets of JWT clutches 1500
build engine: 12000
fcon: 5000
ATS Clutch 2000
install: 6000
axles + install 1000
replace broken axles 800
tuning: 2000
a few other goodies like gauges/line locks and so: 2000
now let's add 1000 for racing insurance on top of regular insurance
Towing costs 600
and currently I need a new set of Stage V axles plus install 2000
now my ABS system is broken....I'm guessing another 1000
and of course the HKS Navigotor needs to be installed plus tuned another 1000
total $95900
Best time 12.06 at 120....and then blown axles. Now keep in mind that southern california has high elevation 1/4 tracks so this would have been around a 11.3 at a sea level track
any questions?
oh, the car dynoed at 608whp
I'm going to guess this is the first "drag car" you've built. Modding smart will go just as far as spending tons of cash most of the time. Look at Audible Mayhem (I don't like to plug him, because I personally don't like the thought of a "drag only" 350Z, but his situation makes a good point.) He picked up a secondhand built motor with a used Greddy TT kit, stripped out his car, added some nitrous and a Turbo 400 with the big slicks and with just a shakedown pass he's already run a 10.4x@134.xxmph (didn't feel like looking up the exact number). Obviously a lot of his time went into doing everything and tuning the car...but I'd venture to guess that he's spent WELL under $30K on top of the cost of his Z so far, maybe under $20K considering he picked up the motor and Turbo kit used.
I guess my point here is I know you're frustrated with your situation and I would be too if I was in your shoes, but it seems like you're trying to tell people that spending $60K (over the price of the car) on a 350Z will only get you a 12.0 pass. And that's just flat out wrong. Just look at my car as an example...350Z + APS TT kit + exhaust + clutch + sticky tires and I'm already mid 11s and I didn't even do any weight reduction or tune on race gas or anything crazy.
people learn the hard way of not replacing the weak components when going big. People often over look axels, differentials, and clutch which I'd never go big without replacing them first.




