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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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I put over 50K on top of the price for the Z and it still has to hit 11's without breaking something...
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 03:15 AM
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yea but it's still a FORD!!! And there were alot more thing done to that car... Just wait and see how they hold up in the long run..
I hate that argument. Who cares if it's a Ford. A 350Z is just a Nissan. My G35 is just a Nissan with a fancy name. Who cares. And I do agree, let's see how it holds up in the long run. It should be just fine. The motor should hold up no problem.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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A friend with a GT500 went drag racing with us several times over the Summer. Those cars will be monsters once more of them hit the streets (in the hands of modders, not speculators). I lent him my DRs and he went 11.8 @ 119+ with only a catback, one-piece DS and tune. He later added a pulley and 3.73's and went 11.3 @ 125. Not too shabby considering it weighs over 4,200 pounds with his 250+ in the seat. It's too bad Ford missed the boat so badly on this car's weight.

As a side note: Since he came off a power lease on his 2003 Cobra, he got his GT500 for sticker (although there probably aren't too many people in that situation).

He's got plans for a KB blower over the Winter, so we'll see what the car is really capable of this Summer. I'm guessing low 10's/high 9's.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
you are assuming that everything works great the first time and nothing ever goes wrong....that is just not the case. Here's a high level break down of what I've spent so far:

350z: 33000
APS TT: 7500
Exhaust, test pipes...: 2000
install: 3000
several tunes: 1500
wheels, tires: about 3000 (different sets)
repairs after hitting the wall: 3000
suspension work: 3000
racelogic: 4000
methanol kit plus install: 1000
two sets of JWT clutches 1500

build engine: 12000
fcon: 5000
ATS Clutch 2000
install: 6000
axles + install 1000
replace broken axles 800
tuning: 2000
a few other goodies like gauges/line locks and so: 2000

now let's add 1000 for racing insurance on top of regular insurance
Towing costs 600

and currently I need a new set of Stage V axles plus install 2000
now my ABS system is broken....I'm guessing another 1000
and of course the HKS Navigotor needs to be installed plus tuned another 1000

total $95900

Best time 12.06 at 120....and then blown axles. Now keep in mind that southern california has high elevation 1/4 tracks so this would have been around a 11.3 at a sea level track

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oh, the car dynoed at 608whp
Yeah umm, i hate to rag on you a little, but you sort of paid the maximum price for EVERYTHING. Also, maybe you should read up on how to install some things instead of putting your car in a mechanic's hands all the time. You'll save money, And have the benefit of KNOWING EXACTLY what was done to the car. All my friends are amazed at how quick my car is and how much i spent. I think you've just had a crappy luck streak and need to learn how to turn a wrench. here are mine for comparison (which i just started modding my car so its not a big list)
Racing Hart rims - 1200$ (tires on them already, rims used off a show car)
TN ST + RSR GT2 Exhaust - 3900$ (install..... 0$)
AAM return fuel system- 650$ (install..... 0$)
UTEC - 750$ (install... 0$)
Seibon VT Cf hood - 600$ (install...0$)
Tunes - (Well under 1000$) from sharif
My Z used for 19K$
My grand total with guages is about 28,000$ my car ran 12.9 @ 112.5 On 6.5 lbs of boost On a HOT day.
On another note, i've raced a GT500 on the street that had only an intake, Exhaust, and a tune. we had some misshifting problems between the two of us so we didn't get a good race. I saw him at the track though and i think he ran 12.20 @ 119.
That 9 sec GT500 had to have some suspension work because these cars have some SERIOUS wheel spin issues. (sorta like our Z's )
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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^^Not everybody wants to run used parts lol. AAM fuel system for $650 no way it was new...
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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^^Not everybody wants to run used parts lol. AAM fuel system for $650 no way it was new...
it was one of those "i bought this and i am not using it now" that starts at 800$ and nobody buys it for a couple days.. so you shoot them a PM and they say "ok sold" i actually bought it on here. the UTEC was spanking new. Yes the exhaust and turbo were used, but they were from a highly spoken for guy. And he sent me a video to show no the turbo and everything. I guess you just gotta sometimes trust people who are highly spoken of. Hence why i drove 8 hours to get a tune from sharif.


Edit: oh and i was more or less referring to the Install prices he's been paying. Also.. you know some people buy PS3's for over 1,200$ and you can go to the store and get them for half that.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cannysage
people learn the hard way of not replacing the weak components when going big. People often over look axels, differentials, and clutch which I'd never go big without replacing them first.
Amen

I am sorry he had to burn so much cash but I would chalk that up with it being his first serious build

I think a sleeved motor with pistons and rods (at least the bottom end) goes for like 4K + cams... maybe 6K assembled he has his listed at 12K

I just dont want people to think it takes that much $$$$ to make a quick Z and others have pointed out with a TT and some smart mods mid 11's properly driven is doable

9's are harder to come by because of the power levels/drivetrain required for sustained passes but ---90K is way too much money and I really feel for his situation ---- but when your in it nothing left to do but finish it now

I have a friend whos burned about 30K on his Silvia which runs 11's but we all know with that much burned he wants more out of it --- breaks things like crazy, more often than not because of rushing
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Sick car! I would have to say that the car has more mods then said in the video.. They had to shave about 5-600 lbs. to get to a respectable weight.. Alot of suspension mods prolly went into it too.. The blower doesnt sound like a 'stock' gt500 blower to me.. 75 shot of NOS.. hrmm sounds fishy to me, but hey sick car for sure.. I just think they are misleading peeps too..
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Awesome job on that car. Funny how that 9 second car pulled a 1.5 60ft obviously launching HARD, and yet people still believe a certain NA Z ran a 1.5 60ft with 260whp (see #1 slot in sticky thread to laugh at BS)....
I wasn't going to call BS but it definitely seemed out of place on a NA bolt Z.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
I wasn't going to call BS but it definitely seemed out of place on a NA bolt Z.
That's because it isn't legit - I don't know why that crap is even on that list.


Anyways yeah, I gotta agree with what BriGuyMax and others were saying.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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nice. I'd buy one if they weren't $20Gs over sticker. And I don't even like mudstains....that says alot. lol. Bada$$ car for sure.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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one drove by me the other day and sounded like pure sex. I would never buy one but they are damn fast and I respect that. Thing looks like a boat on the road
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lo$t
Yeah umm, i hate to rag on you a little, but you sort of paid the maximum price for EVERYTHING. Also, maybe you should read up on how to install some things instead of putting your car in a mechanic's hands all the time. You'll save money, And have the benefit of KNOWING EXACTLY what was done to the car. All my friends are amazed at how quick my car is and how much i spent. I think you've just had a crappy luck streak and need to learn how to turn a wrench. here are mine for comparison (which i just started modding my car so its not a big list)
Racing Hart rims - 1200$ (tires on them already, rims used off a show car)
TN ST + RSR GT2 Exhaust - 3900$ (install..... 0$)
AAM return fuel system- 650$ (install..... 0$)
UTEC - 750$ (install... 0$)
Seibon VT Cf hood - 600$ (install...0$)
Tunes - (Well under 1000$) from sharif
My Z used for 19K$
My grand total with guages is about 28,000$ my car ran 12.9 @ 112.5 On 6.5 lbs of boost On a HOT day.
On another note, i've raced a GT500 on the street that had only an intake, Exhaust, and a tune. we had some misshifting problems between the two of us so we didn't get a good race. I saw him at the track though and i think he ran 12.20 @ 119.
That 9 sec GT500 had to have some suspension work because these cars have some SERIOUS wheel spin issues. (sorta like our Z's )
there is a HUGE difference on how to get into the 12's vs 9's

I ran 12.1's all day long on a 4500 feet track with a stock block and aps TT no problem.

Once you start building it up the right way which is what I did, my 12k engine is a fully build, sleeved block that can hold up 800whp for example. Show me anyone that can build a Z engine to those specs at 6k...

I live in California, everything is more expensive.
I live in an apartment building with no garage space so there is no way I can do any major work myself here. Also I have done quite a few of the smaller installs myself.

Sam at GTM is out here and he is unquestionably one of the best in the states so why should I mess with things that he can do way better. Yes, he's expensive but you get what you pay for.

Why don't we settle this like this:
you spend up to 60k on your Z and run 9 seconds at a 4500 feet elevation track and I will bow to you until then stop making statement like you've been doing because their are insulting and ignorant
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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Well my 5 At ran 14.56 when i started in stock form. I now run 13.08. Cost
stillen blower 8625.00
exhaust 2500.00
headers 2400.00
cats 1300.00
3.53 diff 750.00
VB installed 1800.00
torque con 925.00
SC pulleys (3) 400.00
stage 4 kit 962.00
AAM flash 850.00
weld rims (4) 875.00
slicks 425.00
front tires 300.00
greddy E
used
manage U 765.00
Tunning 350.00
cold air 465.00
ported SC 900.00
spark plugs
90.00, 360.00
stillen hood 1700.00
line lock 649.00
total $ 24049.00
car 51635.00
$ 75684.00

I damaged # 2 cylinder and have to rebuild the moter.
car runs 9.5 lbs of boost.
On the stage 3 set up it ran on the stock set up 13.08 on 19 inch toyos.
After the TC, slicks, tires, more boost it now runs 13.12 all day. Every time i went to the track the weather was bad or there was no trackion. Something allways went wrong.
Next mod is a 1320 TVS eaton blower runing on the Greddy e mangage ultimate. Getting rid of the stillen &th injecter and the SS box. Also getting a SC cam from Sam ( gt motor sports)
My car is a daily driver and except for loosing 40 psig compression and burning oil in # 2 cylinder it has caused me no problems.
Sams stroker moter looks better all the time. I spoke to him 4 weeks ago and he his a great guy who's product I will be buying soon.
24000.00 dollars and have yet to see a 12 second pass !!!

The car will go 12.4 at best on 360 wrhp.
My friends Mustage GT runs 13.4 on stock tires and a cold air intake.
Just think if I put that money into his car!!!!
12.5 easy or better. 11's ????
The difference is that my Z looks better and i can kill them on a road course.
To date no 350 z in my club has beat me yet in a heads up run. I was runner up this year.


A stock 350 Z at our track runs 14.5. (6mt).
Thats it. He is the bracket winner the last 2 years.
All times cetified by the Ontario Z club of Ontario at St thomas drag way.

To the guy who cut 1.5 60ft times. (Stock)
My best 1.8550 lanching at 3000.00 rpm ( pro torque converter 3000 stall. 307 RWHP on a 3320 lb car with me in it. on slicks (12 psig) My base line was 214 to 216 Stock.
No way did he cut those times.
My cost include labour and all dutys, exchange rates and taxes.
I wish i lived in the USA as prices are a lot cheaper there.
To the guy who runs 10.2 with his Z.
Your times are great and i hope you get to the 9's next year.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Z ELIMINATOR
Well my 5 At ran 14.56 when i started in stock form. I now run 13.08. Cost
stillen blower 8625.00
exhaust 2500.00
headers 2400.00
cats 1300.00
3.53 diff 750.00
VB installed 1800.00
torque con 925.00
SC pulleys (3) 400.00
stage 4 kit 962.00
AAM flash 850.00
weld rims (4) 875.00
slicks 425.00
front tires 300.00
greddy E
used
manage U 765.00
Tunning 350.00
cold air 465.00
ported SC 900.00
spark plugs
90.00, 360.00
stillen hood 1700.00
line lock 649.00
total $ 24049.00
car 51635.00
$ 75684.00

I damaged # 2 cylinder and have to rebuild the moter.
car runs 9.5 lbs of boost.
On the stage 3 set up it ran on the stock set up 13.08 on 19 inch toyos.
After the TC, slicks, tires, more boost it now runs 13.12 all day. Every time i went to the track the weather was bad or there was no trackion. Something allways went wrong.
Next mod is a 1320 TVS eaton blower runing on the Greddy e mangage ultimate. Getting rid of the stillen &th injecter and the SS box. Also getting a SC cam from Sam ( gt motor sports)
My car is a daily driver and except for loosing 40 psig compression and burning oil in # 2 cylinder it has caused me no problems.
Sams stroker moter looks better all the time. I spoke to him 4 weeks ago and he his a great guy who's product I will be buying soon.
24000.00 dollars and have yet to see a 12 second pass !!!

The car will go 12.4 at best on 360 wrhp.
My friends Mustage GT runs 13.4 on stock tires and a cold air intake.
Just think if I put that money into his car!!!!
12.5 easy or better. 11's ????
The difference is that my Z looks better and i can kill them on a road course.
To date no 350 z in my club has beat me yet in a heads up run. I was runner up this year.


A stock 350 Z at our track runs 14.5. (6mt).
Thats it. He is the bracket winner the last 2 years.
All times cetified by the Ontario Z club of Ontario at St thomas drag way.

To the guy who cut 1.5 60ft times. (Stock)
My best 1.8550 lanching at 3000.00 rpm ( pro torque converter 3000 stall. 307 RWHP on a 3320 lb car with me in it. on slicks (12 psig) My base line was 214 to 216 Stock.
No way did he cut those times.
My cost include labour and all dutys, exchange rates and taxes.
I wish i lived in the USA as prices are a lot cheaper there.
To the guy who runs 10.2 with his Z.
Your times are great and i hope you get to the 9's next year.
Do yourself a favor and drive that thing off a cliff.....
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lol thats funny..
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat

Why don't we settle this like this:
you spend up to 60k on your Z and run 9 seconds at a 4500 feet elevation track and I will bow to you until then stop making statement like you've been doing because their are insulting and ignorant

where do i sign up???


9s arent as hard as you think, i wish my situation was different, the guy who built my motor (long story if you dont know it) used some crappy headgaskets, i have it apart right now putting in HKS and will be tqing it down to around 120-130 this time around.

i will hit 9s next time i am at the track with no turbos..

i sold my greddy kit, i am doing some cool custom stuff BUT, i am going to the track on dual stage direct port nitrous, 150/350 as soon as i get the motor back together just for fun...

now THATS going to be fun...

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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
where do i sign up???


9s arent as hard as you think, i wish my situation was different, the guy who built my motor (long story if you dont know it) used some crappy headgaskets, i have it apart right now putting in HKS and will be tqing it down to around 120-130 this time around.

i will hit 9s next time i am at the track with no turbos..

i sold my greddy kit, i am doing some cool custom stuff BUT, i am going to the track on dual stage direct port nitrous, 150/350 as soon as i get the motor back together just for fun...

now THATS going to be fun...
lol, you've been always cool to me and others and I'm already bowing to you for getting done what you have.
But even you must have spent more than 30k to get where you are haven't you? Remember the 60k includes the price of a z...

I just hate people making these claims and then it turns out they are way slower than the people they are insulting...it's not easier nor is it cheap to turn an NA car into a FI'd monster
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Jeremey made out like a bandit on the purchase of that G35 with the motor and turbo kit already in it. He also has no install costs, seeing as how most of the work was done by himself. I would like to think though that his setup up is easily under $60k, even with the original cost of his Z.

Tomcat, youve said it already though. You built your car, when there was not many options available as there are now. You also have gotten much of your work done by others who are pros at it. I understand why and where you spent as much money as you did, but still feel as though your total cost of your car would be substantially less if you were to start now. The resources and overall options are that much more which brings down the cost.

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Do yourself a favor and drive that thing off a cliff.....
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