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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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i've seen c6 (non z06) vettes pull 1.7 60 ft's with my own 2 eyes, and the tires on a vette are only 20 mm wider (265 vs 285) on a vette, and the m3 has better tires, so i think its possible to have a freak run and pull a 1.7 on stock tires

a freind of mine bought a salvaged m3 recently, so when he fixes it, i'll run him on the highway and see how it compares to an 07 z

*all street racing will be done on xbox 360

now that the anti street racing crybabies are happy...
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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When the new Z comes out with the 3.7L engines with at least 330hp it should be hitting 12s easy. Hopefully they don't get heavier.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
i've seen c6 (non z06) vettes pull 1.7 60 ft's with my own 2 eyes, and the tires on a vette are only 20 mm wider (265 vs 285) on a vette, and the m3 has better tires, so i think its possible to have a freak run and pull a 1.7 on stock tires

a freind of mine bought a salvaged m3 recently, so when he fixes it, i'll run him on the highway and see how it compares to an 07 z

*all street racing will be done on xbox 360

now that the anti street racing crybabies are happy...
As a Police Officer, I have watched as drivers and passengers have died, as a result of street racing. One even burned alive, as we were unable to free his legs from the dash, before the car was completely engulfed in flames.

So yeah, I am anti street racing. There are far too many variables you have no control over on the street.

Run him at the track, then all things are equal, fair and safe.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JonsilvZ
When the new Z comes out with the 3.7L engines with at least 330hp it should be hitting 12s easy. Hopefully they don't get heavier.

I am sure it will be, but not enough to prevent it from being faster. Can't wait to see what the results are!

High 12's will come form the current HR though, give it a little time, and a slave cylinder fix.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
As a Police Officer, I have watched as drivers and passengers have died, as a result of street racing. One even burned alive, as we were unable to free his legs from the dash, before the car was completely engulfed in flames.

So yeah, I am anti street racing. There are far too many variables you have no control over on the street.

Run him at the track, then all things are equal, fair and safe.
I dont think a race at the track would be fair cause his is an SMG. he wouldn't be able to take full advantage of a great launch with SMG. and if it was a conventional manual, he doesnt have the skill for the launch. the only fair way to compare cars (and not drivers) is to race from a roll, u cant really do that at the track.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
I dont think a race at the track would be fair cause his is an SMG. he wouldn't be able to take full advantage of a great launch with SMG. and if it was a conventional manual, he doesnt have the skill for the launch. the only fair way to compare cars (and not drivers) is to race from a roll, u cant really do that at the track.
Launch control is good enough, you could let him get the SMG software that lets him launch at 3k too, and then he'd be all set with baller launches.

I have a friend with an SMG M3 thats got all CF extremities (trunk, hood, roof), a LTW battery, a 20 lb (total) exhaust system, etc., and with the launch control with bumped RPM I can't touch him on the street. He gets out of the whole so hard its impossible for me to reel him in. Haven't tried track yet.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
I dont think a race at the track would be fair cause his is an SMG. he wouldn't be able to take full advantage of a great launch with SMG. and if it was a conventional manual, he doesnt have the skill for the launch. the only fair way to compare cars (and not drivers) is to race from a roll, u cant really do that at the track.
I understand what you are saying, but just don't agree with racing on the street.

The last roll race I did, was at GIR. A friend with a Volvo S60R wanted to see how his car hung up top, so we slowed, side by side, durign a track event, let the traffic ahead get ahead, around nascar turn 7, then both hit it, going into the front straight. This was with by bolt on 04.

I pulled ahead by a couple of cars, then let up, before braking for turn 1. Then he finally conceded. He did have the 2nd quickest lap times in our group though, and there were faster cars than ours.

Top end runs on the street are extremely dangerous, as you have no idea about what is may happen up ahead.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but just don't agree with racing on the street.

The last roll race I did, was at GIR. A friend with a Volvo S60R wanted to see how his car hung up top, so we slowed, side by side, durign a track event, let the traffic ahead get ahead, around nascar turn 7, then both hit it, going into the front straight. This was with by bolt on 04.

I pulled ahead by a couple of cars, then let up, before braking for turn 1. Then he finally conceded. He did have the 2nd quickest lap times in our group though, and there were faster cars than ours.

Top end runs on the street are extremely dangerous, as you have no idea about what is may happen up ahead.
we dont any kind of track around here that has long enough straight for us to line up and get a race in. and if we tried that at the strip, we'd be near the 1/8 mile mark by the time we actually start racing.

and as far as him getting launch control, thats not gonna happen cause his not gonna do any mods (if at all) for a while cause he has a baby on the way.

I agree with u about not racing on the streets (actual city streets with stop lights and side roads or narrow country roads that barely fit 2 cars side by side). but I'm not to worried about a roll on a 5 lane highway late at night with very light (if any) traffic
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GodSendsDeath
Yeah the E46 forum is full of people running high 12 second stock M3s. But my HR was head to head with a E46 on the street by my house up to 110 than we started to slow down.
damm you should'nt be running the Z hard you just got it. Which means that you havent broken her in. Remember break in is 1200miles. Later on when you dyno it and you didnt do a proper break in you might have lower numbers.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
he has a baby on the way.
#1 reason to not street race.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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Battle of the newbs in a duel for bench racing supremacy lol
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
As a Police Officer, I have watched as drivers and passengers have died, as a result of street racing. One even burned alive, as we were unable to free his legs from the dash, before the car was completely engulfed in flames.

So yeah, I am anti street racing. There are far too many variables you have no control over on the street.

Run him at the track, then all things are equal, fair and safe.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
we dont any kind of track around here that has long enough straight for us to line up and get a race in. and if we tried that at the strip, we'd be near the 1/8 mile mark by the time we actually start racing.

and as far as him getting launch control, thats not gonna happen cause his not gonna do any mods (if at all) for a while cause he has a baby on the way.

I agree with u about not racing on the streets (actual city streets with stop lights and side roads or narrow country roads that barely fit 2 cars side by side). but I'm not to worried about a roll on a 5 lane highway late at night with very light (if any) traffic
Awwww excuses from a street racer. Dude you need to stop this non-sense and just take it to the track. So it puts the guy at a disadvantage, at least your doing it legally.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by teh215
Battle of the newbs in a duel for bench racing supremacy lol
Is this a constructive post?
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Awwww excuses from a street racer. Dude you need to stop this non-sense and just take it to the track. So it puts the guy at a disadvantage, at least your doing it legally.
i don't see how a highway pull once every couple of months makes me a street racer.

a drag strip isnt all that much safer than a deserted stretch of highway

99.9% of the people here have "street raced", i really dont appreciate all the hypocrites on here
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
i don't see how a highway pull once every couple of months makes me a street racer.

a drag strip isnt all that much safer than a deserted stretch of highway

99.9% of the people here have "street raced", i really dont appreciate all the hypocrites on here
I agree with you - I've made runs on the highway before, I don't go looking for it, and I usually just ignore it. If I set a race up, I set it up for at the strip, but sometimes theres no-one around and some car lines up and honks. I have yet to do that with the Z (knock on wood I won't) and I'm trying to be safe, but its like the "Let the person who hasn't sinned throw the first stone" speech, very few people have the right to fight it.

And Warren, I appreciate what you put up with as an officer of the law. Its a job I could never put up with myself.
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
i don't see how a highway pull once every couple of months makes me a street racer.

a drag strip isnt all that much safer than a deserted stretch of highway

99.9% of the people here have "street raced", i really dont appreciate all the hypocrites on here

Then don't street race.
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
The last roll race I did, was at GIR. A friend with a Volvo S60R wanted to see how his car hung up top, so we slowed, side by side, durign a track event, let the traffic ahead get ahead, around nascar turn 7, then both hit it, going into the front straight. This was with by bolt on 04
Not everyone is able to afford going to these events, and some don't have them anywhere even close to them..

When people on this site think of street racing they automatically think it's during rush hour traffic or something close to that.. If you guys lived around here (in a very very small town in SW FL) you would see where the roads are, how safe of an environment it is, etc... An example is one around here that is 4 miles long with 2 12' lane on each side and a 30' median. I use to live about a mile away from this street and I've never seen more than 3 cars using it each day. Not 1 house on the entire street or anywhere near it. We ride up and down the road twice in advance to make there aren't any spots of sand, rocks, or anything else..

Considering how bad the track prep is at the track around here I personally think it's safer on this road than at the track (which was wet last time and caused 3 accidents before they shut it down for "bad track conditions")

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DouBLeJ16
Not everyone is able to afford going to these events, and some don't have them anywhere even close to them..

When people on this site think of street racing they automatically think it's during rush hour traffic or something close to that.. If you guys lived around here (in a very very small town in SW FL) you would see where the roads are, how safe of an environment it is, etc... An example is one around here that is 4 miles long with 2 12' lane on each side and a 30' median. I use to live about a mile away from this street and I've never seen more than 3 cars using it each day. Not 1 house on the entire street or anywhere near it. We ride up and down the road twice in advance to make there aren't any spots of sand, rocks, or anything else..

Considering how bad the track prep is at the track around here I personally think it's safer on this road than at the track (which was wet last time and caused 3 accidents before they shut it down for "bad track conditions")
finally somebody is being realistic


i don't mean any disrespect to anyone here (except maybe solo-350z, he seems really closed minded), especially Veetec being a police officer and everything he went through (as far as seeing people die as a result of street racing). but a roll on a deserted highway isn't necessarily a recipe for disaster. alot of u make it sound that if i do a highway pull it will without doubt end up with an accident

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