I had an M3, boy do i miss that car, wondering once vortech makes their kit for the HR how faster would the Z be

 

Fastest stock HR is 13.2 @ 107mph-that is good enough to wipe out 98% of any stock E46 M3. Having said that now add a S/C what do you think? Avg times for E46 M3's are mid to high 13's they are slow.

 

+1 i really hope this wasnt a serious thread

 

My buddy's e46 ran consistent 12.9s when it was 100% bone stock. From a roll we are pretty much even with him leading by a fender in the end. So yea, SC'd HR would easily walk an e46 M3 imo.

 

Why dont you try it and let us know!

 

because a 07 vortech z dne?

or did i miss the thread about it? I know they were developing one, but i havent heard anything besides that.

 

He is the 2% of owners who can do that....and the def not the norm-good driving.

 

Yeah the E46 forum is full of people running high 12 second stock M3s. But my HR was head to head with a E46 on the street by my house up to 110 than we started to slow down.

 

Yep, that is very true. I remember him telling me according to the forum he's on he is/was the quickest stock 2004 6spd M3. Hell of an awesome driver.

edit: that was in 2005

 

I saw only 2, on the most popular M3 forum.

One ran a 12.7, with an amazing 1.79 60'.

The other ran a 12.9 with a low 1.9. Most are right there midpack, with the same times as the average HR results. Driving and conditions making the biggest difference.

I honestly think that the HR Z's are very comparable to the e46 in performance. I doubt I can hit a 12.7 stock, on the stock rubber, but I think a 12.9 is possible, without the clutch pedal issue.

 

I know a Greddy HR will

 

since that kit does not exist yet for the HR and there has been no solid numbers, i say no and who cares anyway? the Z is not a straight line car for drag racing

 

Now how many HR's are running 13.2's? Yeah....that's what I thought. It'd probably be a drivers race. Hell, I'd rock either one.

 

last i heard, vortech slashed any plans of making a supercharger for the HR, but that my change, who knows

and veetec and peak350 are the only one's that have hit a 13.2, which makes it even less than the 2% that the bimmer forums have. i'm 3rd on the list with a 13.4, i hope i can got out in feb with some better conditions to race in and get closer to a 13.2, but i doubt the conditions will be good enough here in wa that time of year (da will prolly be relativly high)

but as far as running with e46 m3's, just get test pipes and exhaust, that should put u just about even / barely faster than them

 

2% of M3 owners aren't hitting 12's stock, there are 2, Lee Mathews and (other guy's name I forget). Thats not enough for me to say WOW 2% when there are thousands out there NOT making it.

Same with the Z, there will be 2 or 3 great times, and a handful of ok times. Look at the cluster of 13.3's that M3 guys get...

 

^i was going off of what alberto said

but either way, given equally skilled drivers, the m3 should be faster, evidenced by the 12.7 run. but thats if the drivers are good.

if the drivers are on the lower side of ok or they suck, i think that gives the z a good chance to be faster cause it makes alot more power down low, making it easier to launch, where as the m3 makes real power up top, making it difficult to put the power down in an effiecient matter

my 2 cents

 

What made that 12.7 was the fact that he came off the line so fast (1.79 60'). The gearing for first gear on the M3 is more aggressive than on the Z, so its partially credited to that 60' time. I think the 12.9 that was ran is more a benchmark to compare the cars with, because it is not a "better than perfect" run where you are having a 60' time thats barely reproducible. the traps are 104-108 on M3's stock, depending on location, year, and conditions, that seems about the same as the Z.

I'm giving it completely to a drivers race - with the M3 having a better chance out of the whole with good drivers, and the Z with average drivers. From a roll I don't even want to try to pick a winner.

 

If this is based off the same forum, the other guy is Daniel Lo.

 

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The 12.9 is on dragtimes as well - and on video, etc. And that name sounds right.

Is there a list with more than 2 in the 12's somewhere, because all my friends have sunk out at ~13.2 stock in theirs and moved on to gears to get into the 12's.

 

I didnt say it was the norm did I? Yeah thats what I though Gay a$$ newbs. Point of my post was to show at their best they are very close ( I still doint and never will believe that 12.7 run on stock tires), meaning on avg it is a drivers race. Not many HR's running righ tnow, give it one or 2 years and we will see 12's and many more low 13's...