Mustang driver states: "Z" needs NOS/Supercharger to run 13.8
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Still mag racing, eh? LOL
Well, I got a lower 1/4 with a lower trap AND it was my first trip ever to a track with my Z which made me a noob (Edmunds has people that do it for a living), so what does that say about your precious fugly riced out Nismo?
Well, I got a lower 1/4 with a lower trap AND it was my first trip ever to a track with my Z which made me a noob (Edmunds has people that do it for a living), so what does that say about your precious fugly riced out Nismo?
Uh, he doesn't own a Nismo Z.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
And you guys think the average IQ of a mustang driver is low...
I based my 13.6 off of the timeslip list in OUR forum which gives a 60'. Then I took .2 off the 60' which dropped it to 1.95. Still with me? Then I took .4 off the ET which is about normal for a .2 drop in 60'. That gave me a 13.600. Still with me? Then when I quoted that time in my last post I also pointed out that Edmunds got that same time. I didn't say anything about 60'. I never said anything about Edmunds in my original post where I said it would run a 13.6 either, did I?
It's no wonder why I have to argue all the time. Nobody here can f*cking read and always puts words into everyone's mouth.
Then when I show them where they f*cked up and actually started the whole thing for nothing, or showed them how they were wrong do they apologize? Hell no. I may be a hardass, but when I'm proven wrong I'll admit it and even apologize if it was my fault in the first place. I'd really like to meet some of you in real life. Come to Bradenton on Sunday, Please.
I based my 13.6 off of the timeslip list in OUR forum which gives a 60'. Then I took .2 off the 60' which dropped it to 1.95. Still with me? Then I took .4 off the ET which is about normal for a .2 drop in 60'. That gave me a 13.600. Still with me? Then when I quoted that time in my last post I also pointed out that Edmunds got that same time. I didn't say anything about 60'. I never said anything about Edmunds in my original post where I said it would run a 13.6 either, did I?
It's no wonder why I have to argue all the time. Nobody here can f*cking read and always puts words into everyone's mouth.
Then when I show them where they f*cked up and actually started the whole thing for nothing, or showed them how they were wrong do they apologize? Hell no. I may be a hardass, but when I'm proven wrong I'll admit it and even apologize if it was my fault in the first place. I'd really like to meet some of you in real life. Come to Bradenton on Sunday, Please.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Still mag racing, eh? LOL
Well, I got a lower 1/4 with a lower trap AND it was my first trip ever to a track with my Z which made me a noob (Edmunds has people that do it for a living), so what does that say about your precious fugly riced out Nismo?
Also, if you know anything about drag racing, which I now highly doubt, you would know that trap speed is not ACTUAL speed. It's a calculated speed and it also varies (from track to track)
Well, I got a lower 1/4 with a lower trap AND it was my first trip ever to a track with my Z which made me a noob (Edmunds has people that do it for a living), so what does that say about your precious fugly riced out Nismo?
Also, if you know anything about drag racing, which I now highly doubt, you would know that trap speed is not ACTUAL speed. It's a calculated speed and it also varies (from track to track)
Originally Posted by Alberto
Sooo, back to the Mustang crap.
So like I posted this tool hits me up on youtube talking crap. I replied to him and he has since been on youtube but didnt reply back saying he was interested in running me.
Instead he leaves this comment on my 50-150+mph video
My reply
He is an embarressment to car enthusiasts everywhere!
So like I posted this tool hits me up on youtube talking crap. I replied to him and he has since been on youtube but didnt reply back saying he was interested in running me.
Instead he leaves this comment on my 50-150+mph video
My reply
He is an embarressment to car enthusiasts everywhere!
I corrected him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1-R1eUrOPo
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Still mag racing, eh? LOL
Well, I got a lower 1/4 with a lower trap AND it was my first trip ever to a track with my Z which made me a noob (Edmunds has people that do it for a living), so what does that say about your precious fugly riced out Nismo?
Also, if you know anything about drag racing, which I now highly doubt, you would know that trap speed is not ACTUAL speed. It's a calculated speed and it also varies. EVERYONE knows it can vary by a few mph from track to track. So in reality that Nismo might have been travelling at 101 mph and my Touring might have been travelling at 104 mph. You can't prove otherwise. Call me out on it, I'd love nothing more than to slam you with some hard facts on this. Better do a Google search before replying, LOL. Give it up. Game over. You lose.
Well, I got a lower 1/4 with a lower trap AND it was my first trip ever to a track with my Z which made me a noob (Edmunds has people that do it for a living), so what does that say about your precious fugly riced out Nismo?
Also, if you know anything about drag racing, which I now highly doubt, you would know that trap speed is not ACTUAL speed. It's a calculated speed and it also varies. EVERYONE knows it can vary by a few mph from track to track. So in reality that Nismo might have been travelling at 101 mph and my Touring might have been travelling at 104 mph. You can't prove otherwise. Call me out on it, I'd love nothing more than to slam you with some hard facts on this. Better do a Google search before replying, LOL. Give it up. Game over. You lose.
Originally Posted by Gooey
I'm sorry, Im just going by your standards and what you been saying. You lose buddy. Dont say youre track noob when you specifically stated you been to the track many many times. Do you think edmunds test only 350z's? I'm pretty sure this was their First test of the Nismo Z, so in your sense they are a noob to it too. Please ,I never said you were wrong. Just that your stupid conclusions were.....stupid? I don't mag race like you do. Read all your past posts and read mine. When YOU run 13.1-13.2 with your Z, then you can claim its a low 13 second car n/a. Until then all you have is a 13.5 car. Good day. Even an automatic 07 ran those times.
Originally Posted by rkemp1
Jon your wasting your breath with this guy, just ignore him. The fact that he argues with everyone on this forum in almost every thread I have seen him in lets you know he isn't worth the time.
Originally Posted by Gooey
I'm sorry, Im just going by your standards and what you been saying. You lose buddy. Dont say youre track noob when you specifically stated you been to the track many many times. Do you think edmunds test only 350z's? I'm pretty sure this was their First test of the Nismo Z, so in your sense they are a noob to it too. Please ,I never said you were wrong. Just that your stupid conclusions were.....stupid? I don't mag race like you do. Read all your past posts and read mine. When YOU run 13.1-13.2 with your Z, then you can claim its a low 13 second car n/a. Until then all you have is a 13.5 car. Good day. Even an automatic 07 ran those times.
BTW, I absolutely love YOUR time for running on a modded HR with DR's...
Care to point out what exactly is stupid about saying drag is going to slow a car down? I gotta hear this...
Originally Posted by rkemp1
Jon your wasting your breath with this guy, just ignore him. The fact that he argues with everyone on this forum in almost every thread I have seen him in lets you know he isn't worth the time.
I'll just let my timeslips talk.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
If it has the same .CD then I don't see it having more Drag.
Formula for the power sapped by aerodynamic drag given speed. Note As is frontal (hole) surface area of the car in square feet.
Also note that things such as a rear wing, which the Nismo has (not a connected spoiler) either modify the Cd, modify the As, or act as a "separate" component of the calculation.
My guess is it does little (hurts the Cd, the front lip helps it some so it balances) but because the frontal surface area is higher, there will be more total drag.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Then by your standards the Nismo IS a 14 second car. You were saying? Need your butt buddies to come and stick up for you since you only have hot air to blow?
BTW, I absolutely love YOUR time for running on a modded HR with DR's...
Care to point out what exactly is stupid about saying drag is going to slow a car down? I gotta hear this...
BTW, I absolutely love YOUR time for running on a modded HR with DR's...
Care to point out what exactly is stupid about saying drag is going to slow a car down? I gotta hear this...
I think its going to be a slower car mostly because of the difference in suspension making it harder to launch.
Same wheels tires as a Nismo (GT wheels) and I was able to easily pull the same 60' times as before, so I'm guessing the stiffer suspension will hold them back.
Originally Posted by Hoooper
stiffer suspension = better launch
Wat?
If the suspension is too stiff, it won't allow enough weight to transfer to the rear at launch. If the weight of the car doesn't transfer to the rear tires on launch;
Stiffer suspension=crappy launch.
Originally Posted by Z1NONLY
Wat?
If the suspension is too stiff, it won't allow enough weight to transfer to the rear at launch. If the weight of the car doesn't transfer to the rear tires on launch;
Stiffer suspension=crappy launch.
If the suspension is too stiff, it won't allow enough weight to transfer to the rear at launch. If the weight of the car doesn't transfer to the rear tires on launch;
Stiffer suspension=crappy launch.
But for drag racing, disconnecting the front sway bar and having as soft a suspension setup (at least front) as is possible is beneficial.
Stiff suspension only helps to prevent wheel hop, but if you don't spin wheelhop isn't an issue.
Actually back in the day when I use to race a TransAm, we used drag shocks in the rear. You turn them and they become super soft and allow the rear end to basically go way down when you get on it. Allowing all the weight to transfer to the back. This helped with launches. My NISMO actually does this under hard accelerations (obviously not like drag shocks do), but it does squat in the rear when I take off hard.
Hard suspension does not help launch.
Hard suspension does not help launch.
Originally Posted by Hoooper
i mean out back, stiffer is better. you get less chance of wheel hop and the transition of weight is fed more into the tires instead of being damped by the suspension.
While this is a functional improvement, its because the rear suspension architecture is soooo prone to wheel hop that the only real way to prevent it is to limit the travel of the wheel.
The Z likes to squat and has a much better suspension setup out back than the GTO does (especially for launching) meaning that softer is better. You don't see the suspension dampening the weight transfer, if the car doesn't squat/roll its stressing the tire more and decreasing your overall grip instead of adding weight and thus adding grip.