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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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are yall both manuals?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv

I saw dyno's showing power loss on HR's that switched from stock to ram air/cold air aftermarket, i'll try to find them for ya.

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I figured the same thing when I began competing: put 13.70 seconds on the windshield, and run 13.70 seconds. What's the big deal? Try it and and show us how easy it is.
I dont think he is saying drag racing isnt difficult, it just doesnt require as diverse a skill set or as much experience to be good at as road racing so it's not as appealing because in reality it isnt as challenging to be good at it... (at least with street cars, i'm sure when you get up to the upper levels of drag racing it gets very technical and experience is a huge factor).

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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Aftermarket intakes = loss in hp, with the HR.

The HR's also get faster with miles, noticably faster.

The rest is driving.

I haven't been to the track in a while, but my car now "feels" faster than it did back when I ran my PB, in cool weather. Someone will run a 12.9 stock, and trap over 108. If only I had time to hit track. Hopefully by September.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ke0ki2k
I saw dyno's showing power loss on HR's that switched from stock to ram air/cold air aftermarket, i'll try to find them for ya.



I dont think he is saying drag racing isnt difficult, it just doesnt require as diverse a skill set or as much experience to be good at as road racing so it's not as appealing because in reality it isnt as challenging to be good at it... (at least with street cars, i'm sure when you get up to the upper levels of drag racing it gets very technical and experience is a huge factor).
I am not sure how we judge required skills or difficulty. Kind of like baseball versus golf. Which requires more skills? Maybe the very question is absurd.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I am not sure how we judge required skills or difficulty. Kind of like baseball versus golf. Which requires more skills? Maybe the very question is absurd.
Excellent post.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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i love drag racing, and ive been doing it for alot of years. i am more into the big money side of things, and ill tell you... the skill set required to hold three off the line and drive the top end taking a .005 stripe at 180 mph is amazing!!

that being said, i can see how the casual racer would find it un-interesting. making aimless passes to beat your personal best for what? nothing. everyone on here should try entering the next bracket race at their track. watch the guys in the other lane that have been doing it a long time. it should change your perspective. and after a while, youll get better and start to win money.

btw: if i had more time i would love to autocross, or something along the lines. although nascrap is boring to watch, i would love to drive one. more time in the seat would be awesome, but theres something to be said about ripping 3g's from a standstill and running 180 in 7.5 seconds. if you ever get the chance to drive a real racecar that runs fast, jump on it. then you will see why we love this sport.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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its the intakes.....my friend beat me with his bolt on 06 revup and then i took my intakes off and put him back to stock and pulled him
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jmaestre23
its the intakes.....my friend beat me with his bolt on 06 revup and then i took my intakes off and put him back to stock and pulled him
I switched to stock intakes and the car felt like it just took forever to get up to speed, so I put my stillens back on. Also my car only has 4500 miles on it, if that makes a difference. Somebody on this thread said that with more miles, the car gets faster, my friends car has about 12,000 plus miles. Thanks guys.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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Hm...you weighing 60lbs more, and shifting at 7k rpm might have a little to do with why you're slower...Post your slips bro
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen331
Hm...you weighing 60lbs more, and shifting at 7k rpm might have a little to do with why you're slower...Post your slips bro
Sorry, no camera, no computer and no scanner. I have been using my cell phone for everything, its like a mini computer to me for now.LOL
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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I tracked my car the first week I bought her. Ran her hard everyday from the test drive on. Redline daily. I have 23k miles now and not a single problem and my car runs strong at the track.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooey
I tracked my car the first week I bought her. Ran her hard everyday from the test drive on. Redline daily. I have 23k miles now and not a single problem and my car runs strong at the track.
Where have u been man? U have been a ghost since the last track day.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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weather just sucks this summer. been busy with work so once fall hits ill be back
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Lets recap:

Go race him again
turn off traction control
shift at 7500
shift faster
sell your intake
Eat more salads
Run with 1/4 tank of gas
make sure your spare is not in the car
wait wat?
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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My stock automatic Z has beaten modded 6sp Z's. Wadup wit dat??
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by costilla
wow, thanks guys for all the info. I feel better now knowing it could be all those varibles everybody mentioned. I do weigh 210 and he weighed about 150 and I was shifting at about 7k. I didn't mess with tire press or took off any weight. so thanks a lot guys. that's way I like this site! oh by the way, both m/t and both base models

The weight difference (consider how much gas you're running) and shifting at 7k is why you most likely lost the race.

An intake can't be a reason for the same exact car to be pulling. I agree with most people and it also has been proven that intakes don't gain much if any hp/tq. I highly doubt you lost the race because of your intake.

Do as 95snoozer suggested.

Go race him again
turn off traction control
shift at 7500
shift faster
sell your intake
Eat more salads
Run with 1/4 tank of gas
make sure your spare is not in the car

If that does not work then you need to practice on your driving skills.

Good luck and let us know what happens next time.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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I like that "eat more salads", I'm trying to lose weight-really to join the navy reserves.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
My stock automatic Z has beaten modded 6sp Z's. Wadup wit dat??
That's called the other people can't drive for ****.
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