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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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its a fast track no doubt....but that downhill argument is B.S......many people say MIR is actually the place to go for amazing ET's.... I like Cecil because there are no B.S crap cars running there, and the track prep was good...

also franky 110 mph for bolt on vettes is actually low... stock vettes trap 108-110mph...I have scene this many times... so dont let that fool you, my particular vette is not tuned hence the low trap...
I know I know the point was not to analyze the performance of the Vette, we already know how it is but the point is to analyze the supposed "down hill slope" if you get what i mean? Meaning under your circumstances if it was so down hill you would have trapped 114-115 you know what i mean? Down hill is just a BULL **** excuse. I already know your circumstances, plus obviously i see other vettes at Cecil laying the smack down but this down hill shyt is such a lame excuse of discrediting peoples times.

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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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It starts to dip literally as you cross the line.....its basically dead flat for the first 1300'.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by denchan350gt
who is hating the MS3 guys?
Some people on youtube, some on forums. Some are messaging asking me how i launch, i'm like dude my 60 foot is up the *** horrible lol don't ask me for advice but some are hating too.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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It starts to dip literally as you cross the line.....its basically dead flat for the first 1300'.
Okay how can i see this ? is there a weblink or something, i went to google maps it just shows the whole thing as a road, for me it's even hard to find the track on google map.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by franky65
I know I know the point was not to analyze the performance of the Vette, we already know how it is but the point is to analyze the supposed "down hill slope" if you get what i mean? Meaning under your circumstances if it was so down hill you would have trapped 114-115 you know what i mean? Down hill is just a BULL **** excuse. I already know your circumstances, plus obviously i see other vettes at Cecil laying the smack down but this down hill shyt is such a lame excuse of discrediting peoples times.
I used that as an example in order to illustrate the fact that it cannot be some phantom track witha crazy dip, or you would never see (in this case vettes) trapping that low... that was the point I was trying to make, using a tangible example.... so I agree the downhill example is B.S
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by C5_vette
I used that as an example in order to illustrate the fact that it cannot be some phantom track witha crazy dip, or you would never see (in this case vettes) trapping that low... that was the point I was trying to make, using a tangible example.... so I agree the downhill example is B.S
lol true my bad kind it's kind of hard to pick up things on line. Aren't you going to change your best trap man isn't it around 110-112? lol you still have 108 listed in your signature. And by the way you were right MIR is a lot better in getting better E/Ts. I have even had people complain about MIR saying the reason why you get better E/Ts is because the track is short. Man MIR and Cecil are no doubt very well known tracks. It's just total bull that haters hate no matter what. I don't care I was just indicating what some people are thinking lol like i said when people hate you know you're doing something right.

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Hmm for some reason I can't zoom in very far, but if you go to google maps. Put in the address: 1916 Theodore Rd....Rising Sun, MD...then zoom all the way in and click on the "terrain" option it gives you the topographic heights for the area.

I did it like 6 months ago when this issue was brought up and I could zoom in much further. Oh well.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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lol true my bad kind it's kind of hard to pick up things on line. Aren't you going to change your best trap man isn't it around 110-112? lol you still have 108 listed in your signature
Lol werd werd, its all good man, yea man I would change my sig to 12.6 @111 mph, but I am no longer a premiere member so I can only fit one line... I will prob change it at some point

also i'll repost this: first of all ignore the haters most of those types never even race their cars

and secondly call those haters out.. let them run you at Cecil and remove this phantom variable from the equation..... running heads up at the same track should shut people up... i bet you get no hits.... all E-racers I am sure
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Hmm for some reason I can't zoom in very far, but if you go to google maps. Put in the address: 1916 Theodore Rd....Rising Sun, MD...then zoom all the way in and click on the "terrain" option it gives you the topographic heights for the area.

I did it like 6 months ago when this issue was brought up and I could zoom in much further. Oh well.
I believe you it's just that i don't see anything i did the terrain view and it just says 1000 ft 200 m ? lol
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I can see how if you just watched the vid you would think there is a big dip, but it is after the finish line.....there is definitely a significant drop after the line (perhaps 25-30ft). Like C5 said, let them come down and see what they can do. I put the challenge out to the MS3 folks Fri morning and only the one showed up (I don't think he was even on that forum). Speaks volumes of their "confidence".

On that wider range topographic map the only elevation line is 400'....which would mean that no other area in that scope of view is less than 350 or higher than 450, but I can't get in any further....sorry.

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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Lol werd werd, its all good man, yea man I would change my sig to 12.6 @111 mph, but I am no longer a premiere member so I can only fit one line... I will prob change it at some point

also i'll repost this: first of all ignore the haters most of those types never even race their cars

and secondly call those haters out.. let them run you at Cecil and remove this phantom variable from the equation..... running heads up at the same track should shut people up... i bet you get no hits.... all E-racers I am sure
True, I admit I do talk a lot of smack SOMETIMES but that's just a childish habit i'm changing. 03 called out the MS3 guys at the track he was like come on little girls let's do this. Some mazdaspeed 3 guys claimed that because of low boost the MS3 traps low but can keep up with cars trapping about 3 mph over. lol the best trap we saw of a Mazdaspeed 3 was 101 so even according to their cyber math equation 104 mph is < than 108 mph trap this they shut up and started with the sloped down track BS lol i was like okay if it slopes down so much why didnt the ms3 trap 104? they were like limited boost. LOL like the limited boost in the first 2 gears prevents even the slope from helping. Gawd I just want to slap the living hell out of some of those 17 year olds. Don't even know why i'm so retarded to argue with someone that transitioned from a Cobalt LS to a Mazdaspeed 3
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Also 03 mentioned a couple times that me and a couple other guys talk down on the DE. Yeah maybe sometimes I have and that yeah sometimes I don't defend the DE 350z and I defend the HR Z, the reason is because i've never driven a DE and i've even raced a couple bolts on and i won't say where all i can say is "it was not at the track" lol and from roll i beat them so i can't really defend a car that i've never driven. However from my last track experience I have grown more respect for the DEs than even my own HR. Either way i try to defend the 350z to the most reasonable terms. For example if someone told me they beat a corvette in their 350z i would call him out because a z beating a vette no way unless you're modded. However If someone tells me they beat a 350z especially a hr z in their stock ms3 or their stock cobalt ss or Srt-4 yeah that get's on my nerves just like some kid told me he beat a de 350z in his i/h/e (ricer mod) civic si. Illogical BS like that just gets on my nerves and whenever i call them out to race be it even at the track none of them show up. I asked this bmw 335 guy who by the way traps 104 mph at the track to come race once and he never showed up. Yet he talks big and bad about how he pulls country lengths on all VQs. I've been racing since I was 16-17 years old so I guess it's a huge addiction and part of my life. However i'm glad i have taken it off the streets now finally.

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I was pretty cordial in inviting them out.....I try to keep it positive. They do seem to invade mine, and most other 350z videos on the various sites and that upsets me. So, I thought I would see if they would come out, and they didn't.
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well best advice I can give you is dont get involved with arguments like that... especially with E-racers most of whom dont even have track times to back up their claims...

when I was younger I would get into arguments quite a bit.. especially with e46 M3 owners... however after I challenged a bunch of them to run.. and none took me up on the offer.. i moved on... e-racers are a dime a dozen...

now as for the MS3 I will say this... it is actually a pretty fast car, and I would not sleep on them... but sounds like the group you are arguing with are a bunch of fan boi's... make sure you do not become a fan boi yourself.. its hard sometimes as we are all passionate about our cars.. but the best thing to do is ask them to come to the track... and if they dont show up... there is your answer..
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Well said C5.....you can't win in these e-arguments. Best thing to do is put forth the challenge for a track meet and battle it out, but they opted to be sissies. In my mind it is settled.
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Originally Posted by C5_vette
well best advice I can give you is dont get involved with arguments like that... especially with E-racers most of whom dont even have track times to back up their claims...

when I was younger I would get into arguments quite a bit.. especially with e46 M3 owners... however after I challenged a bunch of them to run.. and none took me up on the offer.. i moved on... e-racers are a dime a dozen...

now as for the MS3 I will say this... it is actually a pretty fast car, and I would not sleep on them... but sounds like the group you are arguing with are a bunch of fan boi's... make sure you do not become a fan boi yourself.. its hard sometimes as we are all passionate about our cars.. but the best thing to do is ask them to come to the track... and if they dont show up... there is your answer..
lol@ some of them say the track/ dig is for girls to come and race from roll on highways. Just to prove the ms3 from roll haha and I did I raced 4 of them, videos all posted up on youtube by those owners. They called bull shyt on absolutely every race lol but yeah you're right.
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Ha you should see my sound clip vid over 600,000 veiws and over 1250 comments about how my car sucks because its an auto lol. I'd be on there 24/7 if I tried arguing with them so I let it be. I know what my car can do and I love it.
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I posted in that vid aj......all I got was like -109233421093219 thumbs down lol.
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LOL
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LOL....first comment on the vid I posted for you ....."nice runs for the auto"...sigh.
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