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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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I'm ok with that, Mike. My only stipulation would be that you create extra posts at the start of the top 25 thread so that you have room, should you need it down the road.

BTW, with a 111+ trap, 11 sec passes are possible on slicks and with a good DA.
Old Aug 29, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Sounds like a good idea....If I get bored at work tomorrow I will start the thread. If not....maybe tomorrow evening.
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I am leaning towards Four categories....
Bone Stock: Will allow oil coolers ONLY, but must be on factory Bridgestones.
N/A: All encompassing...everything from just an intake to fully built 15:1 All Motor builds.
F/I: At least to start...all FI will be in a single list. If there is enough entries over time I will separate them as the 350Z list is.
Overall Top 25: Self explanatory.

Thoughts?
I like it.

No need for multiple forced induction categories. Prefer the terms "all motor" and "power adder." But since 350Z drag racing uses "naturally aspirated" and "forced induction" may as well stick with it for continuity.
Old Aug 30, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Good job on the 12.6! Glad to see some 370Z owners are running at the track!
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
I am leaning towards Four categories....
Bone Stock: Will allow oil coolers ONLY, but must be on factory Bridgestones.
N/A: All encompassing...everything from just an intake to fully built 15:1 All Motor builds.
F/I: At least to start...all FI will be in a single list. If there is enough entries over time I will separate them as the 350Z list is.
Overall Top 25: Self explanatory.

Thoughts?
I like it.
Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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those are some nice times.

not that my opinion matters but I've always found that street tires are street tires when it comes to the drag strip, and that traction between different ones has always been essentially the same.

i personally wouldn't limit "bone stock" to the stock tires at the expense of lumping in guys with full bolt ons like dnaut right beside guys who's cars are bone stock with no power or drivetrain modifications but who just went with a different brand of normal street tire when their stockers wore out.

you put two otherwise identical cars next to each other on the drag strip and one guy is not going to have an advantage over the other because one has PS2s and the other has RE050s or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
those are some nice times.

not that my opinion matters but I've always found that street tires are street tires when it comes to the drag strip, and that traction between different ones has always been essentially the same.

i personally wouldn't limit "bone stock" to the stock tires at the expense of lumping in guys with full bolt ons like dnaut right beside guys who's cars are bone stock with no power or drivetrain modifications but who just went with a different brand of normal street tire when their stockers wore out.

you put two otherwise identical cars next to each other on the drag strip and one guy is not going to have an advantage over the other because one has PS2s and the other has RE050s or whatever.
I think tires do make a difference, but have no problem with bone stock including different tires, as long as they are the same size as the stock tires and are not DR's.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
those are some nice times.

not that my opinion matters but I've always found that street tires are street tires when it comes to the drag strip, and that traction between different ones has always been essentially the same.

i personally wouldn't limit "bone stock" to the stock tires at the expense of lumping in guys with full bolt ons like dnaut right beside guys who's cars are bone stock with no power or drivetrain modifications but who just went with a different brand of normal street tire when their stockers wore out.

you put two otherwise identical cars next to each other on the drag strip and one guy is not going to have an advantage over the other because one has PS2s and the other has RE050s or whatever.
I somewhat agreee. I think the main purpose for the bone stock list was to see what owners could get out of it straight off the showroom floor. But since an oil cooler is ok that kinda goes out the window. If an oil cooler is allowed then a different brand of the same sized street tires should be also. Just my .02.

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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
BTW, with a 111+ trap, 11 sec passes are possible on slicks and with a good DA.
If that ever happens Im crashing my 350 into a brick wall.
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My bad AJ, I hit the G'damn edit button again...meaning to hit quote .


The reason for the oil cooler is even without hot lapping...the 370z's have an issue with getting the oil to hot and going into limp mode. Adding an oil cooler won't net any additional whp, but will allow those in warmer climates to have a "fair" chance at topping the list. If this is a major point of contention for the 370z folks here...I don't have a problem with not allowing it for "stock down to the tire." I was just trying to be considerate to those in the South.

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BTW what class is

The nitrous bottle was empty?

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Originally Posted by ajcool2
I somewhat agreee. I think the main purpose for the bone stock list was to see what owners could get out of it straight off the showroom floor. But since an oil cooler is ok that kinda goes out the window. If an oil cooler is allowed then a different brand of the same sized street tires should be also. Just my .02.
Now that I think about it oil cooler may be a poor idea.

One exception will lead to another. What about a muffler? After all its only a muffler. May be this is a can of worms we do not want to open.
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
If that ever happens Im crashing my 350 into a brick wall.
Well, you have nitrous, no? You can still keep up with the bolt-on 370Zs.

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My bad AJ, I hit the G'damn edit button again...meaning to hit quote .


The reason for the oil cooler is even without hot lapping...the 370z's have an issue with getting the oil to hot and going into limp mode. Adding an oil cooler won't net any additional whp, but will allow those in warmer climates to have a "fair" chance at topping the list. If this is a major point of contention for the 370z folks here...I don't have a problem with not allowing it for "stock down to the tire." I was just trying to be considerate to those in the South.
Noob.

I think the other members are right. I don't think we should have any exceptions for bone-stock list.
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 04:48 AM
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LI don't think an oil cooler should be considered a modification. In all actuality its something Nissan should've considered to begin with and hopefully will have a tsb or recall on. My 370z has hit about 230 degrees just driving normally on the highway.
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Nobody's arguing that the oil cooler does not make you faster. It's the concept of allowing an exception. If we allowed that, others will ask "why not XXX or YYY?" I mean, where do we draw the line?

It was determined long ago that there were to be no exceptions whatsoever for the 350Z's 100% stock list (hence the name ONE HUNDRED PERCENT) and for the sake of consistency, we need to uphold the same rules for the 370Zs.

But.. what do I know..?
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Fine by me.....no oil coolers .
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Fine by me.....no oil coolers .
Hi Mike,
I've been posting about traction problems. If I use slicks, will my et times be counted in the 25 fastest bolt on? I think I've seen slicks listed. Just want to make sure its still ok.
Thanks'
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Slicks are fine for that list.
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I haven't forgotten about the list...I've just been swamped the past few days. I will have it up in the near future..............promise .
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I know I'm new, & don't want to complicate things, but what if someone had a pro engine builder rebuild/build a none turbo, non supercharged or nitrous engine(you can get 500+HP with cams/port polish heads blah, blah) Will it be in the bolt on list???? A buid engine car can turn 10's 11's. I'm sorry, just have nothing to do tonight



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