Doug @ Crawford's vs 2002 E46 M3 6SP
In our quest to hit our target of 300rwhp, we were curious to see how far we had come along.
Since a large majority tends to compare our car to an E46 M3, we figured we would take an honest look at each of our powerbands.
Our local dyno was kind enough to overlay our dyno vs. an `02 6sp for comparison purposes.
I think in knowing that this Z weighs in at a reasonable sub 3200lbs, as opposed to the M3s average of 3400lbs... Including that we now have a far more usable powerband. I know which car I would chose to run a road event.
... Did I forget to mention that the Z with this complete package would still be less expensive than a new M3?
Stock E36 M3s tend to have dreams that they can hang with stock Zs, now we'll go ahead and start letting the Stock E46s dream with them! German this...
Since a large majority tends to compare our car to an E46 M3, we figured we would take an honest look at each of our powerbands.
Our local dyno was kind enough to overlay our dyno vs. an `02 6sp for comparison purposes.
I think in knowing that this Z weighs in at a reasonable sub 3200lbs, as opposed to the M3s average of 3400lbs... Including that we now have a far more usable powerband. I know which car I would chose to run a road event.
... Did I forget to mention that the Z with this complete package would still be less expensive than a new M3?
Stock E36 M3s tend to have dreams that they can hang with stock Zs, now we'll go ahead and start letting the Stock E46s dream with them! German this...
Last edited by PhoenixINX; Jan 26, 2005 at 02:52 PM.
But as they say on Bimmerforums they drove home in a BMW. HAHAHA
Or the excuse they will take you in the twisties...
I need to get back in Middle Tennessee...good to see you NA guys making power.
Or the excuse they will take you in the twisties...
I need to get back in Middle Tennessee...good to see you NA guys making power.
im not 100% sure if an M3 can take a Z in twisties.... maybe completely stock... but even with a tire upgrade, I think a stock m3 mite not be able ot hang... but thats just my opinion... feel free to flame
Please note, Doug’s car has custom heads and cams. While plenum and headers will help make the M3 a better adversary, you wont see it disappear in your rearview like in Doug’s car.
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Originally posted by bhk1004
im not 100% sure if an M3 can take a Z in twisties.... maybe completely stock... but even with a tire upgrade, I think a stock m3 mite not be able ot hang... but thats just my opinion... feel free to flame
im not 100% sure if an M3 can take a Z in twisties.... maybe completely stock... but even with a tire upgrade, I think a stock m3 mite not be able ot hang... but thats just my opinion... feel free to flame
Whose M3 did you use for the comparison? Was it building buster boys?
Last edited by JAMESZ; Jan 26, 2005 at 03:58 PM.
Awesome numbers guys! This is the kit that will soon be available? How would it stand up to one of the TT's? Also, is there much more that could be done to further develop NA power after this project itself is completed?
Originally posted by nuttyprof
well, how modded can a m3 get? i thought it was pretty maxed out.
well, how modded can a m3 get? i thought it was pretty maxed out.
Guys, all respect to that motor... Too bad it costs so much!!!!
How will the custom heads part of it be handled. I'm assuming it will be a exchange for some ported heads with all the valve & spring, etc., upgrade goodies. But what has been put into these heads?
Originally posted by throbbing_Zon
How will the custom heads part of it be handled. I'm assuming it will be a exchange for some ported heads with all the valve & spring, etc., upgrade goodies. But what has been put into these heads?
How will the custom heads part of it be handled. I'm assuming it will be a exchange for some ported heads with all the valve & spring, etc., upgrade goodies. But what has been put into these heads?
I do know however this is all on the stock valvetrain.
Originally posted by PhoenixINX
In our quest to hit our target of 300rwhp, we were curious to see how far we had come along.
Since a large majority tends to compare our car to an E46 M3, we figured we would take an honest look at each of our powerbands.
Our local dyno was kind enough to overlay our dyno vs. an `02 6sp for comparison purposes.
I think in knowing that this Z weighs in at a reasonable sub 3200lbs, as opposed to the M3s average of 3400lbs... Including that we now have a far more usable powerband. I know which car I would chose to run a road event.
... Did I forget to mention that the Z with this complete package would still be less expensive than a new M3?
Stock E36 M3s tend to have dreams that they can hang with stock Zs, now we'll go ahead and start letting the Stock E46s dream with them! German this...
In our quest to hit our target of 300rwhp, we were curious to see how far we had come along.
Since a large majority tends to compare our car to an E46 M3, we figured we would take an honest look at each of our powerbands.
Our local dyno was kind enough to overlay our dyno vs. an `02 6sp for comparison purposes.
I think in knowing that this Z weighs in at a reasonable sub 3200lbs, as opposed to the M3s average of 3400lbs... Including that we now have a far more usable powerband. I know which car I would chose to run a road event.
... Did I forget to mention that the Z with this complete package would still be less expensive than a new M3?
Stock E36 M3s tend to have dreams that they can hang with stock Zs, now we'll go ahead and start letting the Stock E46s dream with them! German this...


