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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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I just got a 2004 Touring Z and I have know idea where to start, please any and all help welcomed... And I know, by asking this question I'm going to be killed, but I need to...I want more power, but also it's going to be driven daily off the track, so with that in mind...whats better, TURBO or SUPERCHARGER?
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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you should use the search function,but it depends on how much power u want,turbos make more power but are risky unless you get a proper tune,sc is less powerfull but depending on the kit its more reliable,i have a stillen stage 2 and love it.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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It depends how much power you want... What hp are you looking to achieve???
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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You should quit posting the same thing everywhere. Here are the answers from the last thread you started about the same question.

https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-drivetrain/164717-new-owner-lots-of-questions.html
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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If you have to ask turbo or supercharging, maybe forced-induction is not the best first step. Please read https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-drivetrain/50429-new-350z-owners-read-this-before-doing-any-modifications-to-your-z.html.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Never mind. I just checked and see that you keep asking the same question. Get serious or be ignored.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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To all who were offended... I'm sorry if my questions bothered you, I wasn't aware there was an issue, thanks for letting me know...
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wizzdumb77
To all who were offended... I'm sorry if my questions bothered you, I wasn't aware there was an issue, thanks for letting me know...
No big deal. Its a multiple post: same question posted several times. The mod thing might look formidable for new 350Z owners, but it is not. Generally the first step is more air in or more air out. And this entire forum is filled with suggestions.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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The vibe I am getting from your querry is that you want to go faster, with FI. It is very dangerous and foolhardy to add speed before you can handle it. Make sure you can handle going faster before you do go faster. I can tell you that the suspension is adequate, but can be improved significantly. The brake and wheel upgrade is an absolute must.
Also I am assuming you have a 5AT, like myself (touring). It will not last without any attention to it.
Oh, and if you ask about which turbo/sc kit is the best... let's just say there will a firestorm coming your way. Keep this in mind: none of them is perfect and complete. Each kit has a million reasons to be your choice and another million reasons not to be your choice. Keep this in mind however, a turbo is a turbo is a turbo. Unless you are going for over 500whp you will not see a very major difference between any of these options, so chose according to whatever your local mechanic/tuner knows best or has most experience on or has the best price on. Same goes for SC. By local I mean within a 50 mile radius if possible. You don't want to drag yourself on a giant road trip every time there is an issue, and there will be issues, minor or major, there will be issues. Be prepared for those.
You have to decide which FI route you like: turbo, single or twin; SC, centrifugal or eaton/roots type. Each has its own features, advantage and disadvantages. Make sure you know them all before you make a choice.
Devise a plan for your car. Do you want a 1/4 mile racer, a fast street car, autocrosser, drifter, etc... Each category will have its own requirements, some of these categories are mutually exclusive. Put together a budget and add 15-20% on top of it (it's always more then you hope).
Finally the best upgrade to the car is the driver. Take racing/driving lessons if you can. A 350 whp in hands of a skilled driver will spank any 700 whp car driven by a jackass...
It may take you about 6 month to put everything together. Be patient. There are mistakes that may cost you a whole engine or a tranny. Be aware of what can go wrong and devise a plan to prevent it, if possible.
Note that I did not tell you what to do. All of this wisdom of ages is in this forum. All you need is a good mouse and lots of time in front of your computer, so start searching and good luck.

BTW, do I have enough posts to start flaming noobs yet?

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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Edit, double post

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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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I actually have the 6-speed manual transmission, and I previously drove an Audi TT, so handling some power isn't the problem, but I do understand the need for concern. Also, not to brag, but I am fairly confortable driving, but again, there's always room for improvement. I think the route I will take is adding a new exhaust, intake, and maybe headers, then, down the road, perhaps FI. By doing this, are their any other concerns I should look out for like ones associated with FI. And another question which products are recommended? Thanks.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wizzdumb77
I actually have the 6-speed manual transmission, and I previously drove an Audi TT, so handling some power isn't the problem, but I do understand the need for concern. Also, not to brag, but I am fairly confortable driving, but again, there's always room for improvement. I think the route I will take is adding a new exhaust, intake, and maybe headers, then, down the road, perhaps FI. By doing this, are their any other concerns I should look out for like ones associated with FI. And another question which products are recommended? Thanks.
I see flaws already. If you go turbo, you will have to get rid of the the headers to make room for the turbos' exhaust manifolds (at least a grand in parts/labor).
True dual exhausts do not work with single turbo kits without additional mods, so you need to know which FI mode you will be using...

BTW, Audi TT is a great sportscar, but the Z beats it hands down (but since you are here you know it). And what I was referring to is raising the engine output to over 400 hp... I was in no way trying to imply that you are not an experienced driver... BTW, did your car come with OEM brembos?
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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No, it has the regular stock brakes. And I'm still questioning between SC and Turbo, any recomendations?
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wizzdumb77
No, it has the regular stock brakes. And I'm still questioning between SC and Turbo, any recomendations?
I recomend searching.
Centrifugal superchargers scream like a banshee on crack. The only eaton/roots uption (stillen) has almost zero room for potential upgrades, but is plenty quick out of the box. Single turbos are more expensive. Twin turbos are ever more expensive. This really dependt on what goal you have for your car.
In terms of relyability, they have different things that can go wrong. A key to reliability is the quality of install/tune, not the choice of a kit...
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