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Old 01-26-2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by G I Love My Car
Hey Big "A" call eric and find out when I can get on the dyno and u will understand why this is stale right know. As soon as we can get my car on the dyno it will happen, untill then I am waiting. If anyone wants to find out weather or not my car is really making 313 its me, its my car, my money and time that has been spent on the car. So everyone please understand I want this to happen as much as everyone else, so just relax and when everyone that is INVOLVED can get together we will post, video tape and take many pictures with clocks and computers and Lee Harvey Oswalds gun to prove our findings. Untill then I say, Good Day Sir.
Just trying to help. As I stated in the last post... at some point in the powerband, my car has to make 314rwhp on its way to 400+. If we isolate the rpm that happens, then compare it to the power made at that same rpm on a dynojet, we know if the correction factor is correct at that power level based on how close the numbers are. With that simple test we immediately know what your peak power is (within a very small margin of error) on a DJ. Your 314rwhp is no different than my 314rwhp where it occurs. 314 = 314

I offered up because you had a myriad of reasons you could not get to the dynos soon. (bolt in tire, work schedule, etc., etc., etc). I don't have these issues. As soon as I get back from an out of town trip, I can go whatever day the guys at CPRacing could set this up.

The issue is not is "G I Love My Car" making 300+rwhp, that is a symptom of what everyone on this thread has been questioning... the real question is whether the correction factor on the Dyno Dynamics dyno is correct. That determination can be made with anyone's car and, in fact, is better done with a high horsepower car because it gives you more data points for comparison. Ideally, I think the best solution would be for Sharif to run his car on both and compare the full set of data (not just peak HP) to determine where the correction factor is correct and where it is not. However, since he is currently sporting a broken axle...

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Old 01-26-2006 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by G I Love My Car
Hey Big "A" call eric and find out when I can get on the dyno and u will understand why this is stale right know. As soon as we can get my car on the dyno it will happen, untill then I am waiting. If anyone wants to find out weather or not my car is really making 313 its me, its my car, my money and time that has been spent on the car. So everyone please understand I want this to happen as much as everyone else, so just relax and when everyone that is INVOLVED can get together we will post, video tape and take many pictures with clocks and computers and Lee Harvey Oswalds gun to prove our findings. Untill then I say, Good Day Sir.

How does it feel though, G I? I mean like mine is just a whole new animal & I can't get traction out of the whole for **** & even 2nd gear lights 'em up big time coming out of 1st. Of course my tires are ****ty but damn. And it pulls big up top too. But it's just waaayyyy more fun, you know? Yours has to be at least like all that, yes?
Old 01-26-2006 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mcduck
Just trying to help. As I stated in the last post... at some point in the powerband, my car has to make 314rwhp on its way to 400+. If we isolate the rpm that happens, then compare it to the power made at that same rpm on a dynojet, we know if the correction factor is correct at that power level based on how close the numbers are. With that simple test we immediately know what your peak power is (within a very small margin of error) on a DJ. Your 314rwhp is no different than my 314rwhp where it occurs. 314 = 314

I offered up because you had a myriad of reasons you could not get to the dynos soon. (tire in wheel, work schedule, etc., etc., etc). I don't have these issues. As soon as I get back from an out of town trip, I can go whatever day the guys at CPRacing could set this up.

The issue is not is "G I Love My Car" making 300+rwhp, that is a symptom of what everyone on this thread has been questioning... the real question is whether the correction factor on the Dyno Dynamics dyno is correct. That determination can be made with anyone's car and, in fact, is better done with a high horsepower car because it gives you more data points for comparison. Ideally, I think the best solution would be for Sharif to run his car on both and compare the full set of data (not just peak HP) to determine where the correction factor is correct and where it is not. However, since he is currently sporting a broken axle...
While that is an interesting theory... unfortunatly its not that easy, as your 314rwhp will happen at an entirely different torque/rpm, making the situations very different.
Old 01-26-2006 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by phunk
While that is an interesting theory... unfortunatly its not that easy, as your 314rwhp will happen at an entirely different torque/rpm, making the situations very different.
not really. For an isolated data point, in this case a give power level, the correction factor should be a set value with a very small margin of error (less than 1%).

You have stated you feel you cannot set one overall correction factor for the entire powerband. So, the next logical jump would be to set it as a variable correction factor based on different power levels (figuring the correction may change between 300hp and 350hp, then again between 350hp and 400hp, and so on). If you can't do it this way, then how would you do it? It's almost as if you are saying the correction factor can *never* work because there are two many variables.

If that's true, then I go back to my second offer of recording only pure DD and DJ numbers (no correction) and seeing how those stack up and extrapolate the 314rwhp data (minus correction factor) from the DD to DJ numbers
Old 01-26-2006 | 11:31 AM
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well ya can do it if you really want, but i will definatly have to say that even if your car ends up dead on equal i will not believe the 314rwhp NA car until I see that one do it!
Old 01-26-2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by phunk
well ya can do it if you really want, but i will definatly have to say that even if your car ends up dead on equal i will not believe the 314rwhp NA car until I see that one do it!
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The car feels sick and I mean sick, espically with the little bit of cold weather that we have right know in charlotte. No I can not get traction from a straight out dig but even droping from 4 to 2 it gets loose. My brother who was behind me in an 04 maxima said when I dropped 2 second he said the car lost traction for about 15 yards but it really didnt feal like that to me. I lost alittle of the line but nothing anyone else but me would feel. I let a friend of mine drive the car, he is the points leader the American Iron Modified class in this area and he even said that it felt faster from about 20 to 80 than his 03 cobra before it turned into a race car. Now thats not saying alot but to get to ur answer, THE CAR IS FAST
Old 01-26-2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by G I Love My Car
The car feels sick and I mean sick, espically with the little bit of cold weather that we have right know in charlotte. No I can not get traction from a straight out dig but even droping from 4 to 2 it gets loose. My brother who was behind me in an 04 maxima said when I dropped 2 second he said the car lost traction for about 15 yards but it really didnt feal like that to me. I lost alittle of the line but nothing anyone else but me would feel. I let a friend of mine drive the car, he is the points leader the American Iron Modified class in this area and he even said that it felt faster from about 20 to 80 than his 03 cobra before it turned into a race car. Now thats not saying alot but to get to ur answer, THE CAR IS FAST
So, when are you getting it on the dyno? I really just want to see it hit 314.
Old 01-26-2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by G I Love My Car
The car feels sick and I mean sick, espically with the little bit of cold weather that we have right know in charlotte. No I can not get traction from a straight out dig but even droping from 4 to 2 it gets loose. My brother who was behind me in an 04 maxima said when I dropped 2 second he said the car lost traction for about 15 yards but it really didnt feal like that to me. I lost alittle of the line but nothing anyone else but me would feel. I let a friend of mine drive the car, he is the points leader the American Iron Modified class in this area and he even said that it felt faster from about 20 to 80 than his 03 cobra before it turned into a race car. Now thats not saying alot but to get to ur answer, THE CAR IS FAST

Yep
Old 01-26-2006 | 03:19 PM
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My car NA in a little cold lost traction from a 45mph punch in 2nd, I must of not really been 262whp, def had to be 300+whp...








j/k - I look forward to another dynojet man, regardless of what you pull on that, you have a nice set of mods and Im sure a great tune, Id love to see some track times from ya
Old 01-27-2006 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by G I Love My Car
The car feels sick and I mean sick, espically with the little bit of cold weather that we have right know in charlotte. No I can not get traction from a straight out dig but even droping from 4 to 2 it gets loose. My brother who was behind me in an 04 maxima said when I dropped 2 second he said the car lost traction for about 15 yards but it really didnt feal like that to me. I lost alittle of the line but nothing anyone else but me would feel. I let a friend of mine drive the car, he is the points leader the American Iron Modified class in this area and he even said that it felt faster from about 20 to 80 than his 03 cobra before it turned into a race car. Now thats not saying alot but to get to ur answer, THE CAR IS FAST
Whatever comes of this, it sounds like your car is running great and you're enjoying it. Ultimately, that's all that really matters.

I'm still game to help out. Otherwise, I'll just wait around like everyone else.
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no word yet. Huh
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Damn it man!!!

I hate to admit it, but you could be right, who can guaranty that the car won't have something else installed in order to make more whp...
its a damn shame, I REALLY wanted to know for sure the possibilities.
All that has to be done to prevent this is dyno at CPR using the same correction factor, then driving the car to Dave Brown or UGR the same day and dynoing the car without any tuning etc.

/case closed!
Old 01-30-2006 | 09:23 AM
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One thing that is quite apparent to me is that there is no hurry to get the independent dyno pulls done. This thread was started on 16 Jan 06 and is now 15 days old.

If you really wanted to make this happen, plain and simple, it would have happened.

Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s great that you hit 314 WHP with the mods that you have. I wish my OEM motor was that strong!

Take a sick day and make this happen!
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Ive just read 22 pages and not got an answer - Must get a life...
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^^^ HAHAHA..... Bloody Hell, I must say!!!!!
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took me an hour to read this...whats next?
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Originally Posted by Alberto
My car NA in a little cold lost traction from a 45mph punch in 2nd, I must of not really been 262whp, def had to be 300+whp...








j/k - I look forward to another dynojet man, regardless of what you pull on that, you have a nice set of mods and Im sure a great tune, Id love to see some track times from ya

bwahahah, i used to think my car was some super freak because i couldnt get traction until 3rd gear on 275 wide tires....turns out Nitto 555's SUCK, with my new Pilot Sports i can barely chirp 2nd lol.
Old 02-01-2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by done12many2
One thing that is quite apparent to me is that there is no hurry to get the independent dyno pulls done. This thread was started on 16 Jan 06 and is now 15 days old.

If you really wanted to make this happen, plain and simple, it would have happened.

Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s great that you hit 314 WHP with the mods that you have. I wish my OEM motor was that strong!

Take a sick day and make this happen!
Can't this be done on a Saturday!
Old 02-01-2006 | 02:59 PM
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CANT THIS WORTHLESS THREAD BE CLOSED YET?



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