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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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I have an 05 enth Z.. so..JWT cams first or UTEC first and why?
How much is a typical cam install?
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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Cams last, do all your bolt ons first, then tune..For the price it will cost you to do cams you can drop a few more clams and go F/I..
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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Looks like he has most of the bolt-ons done. I think the next logical choice would be UTEC.
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Yes, im not looking into getting headers. FI is in my to-do list.
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Shouldn't you always do all your mods first before tuning? that way you only have to tune once?
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Shouldn't you always do all your mods first before tuning? that way you only have to tune once?
Yes..However if he opts to do heads and cams on a N/A car he would most likely surpass the cost of going F/I.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Heads for the Z are stupid expensive. It sucks to have 4 cams. My friend's LS1 has 1 cam -.-..the best street cam for his car costs like 400 bucks, and u can install it w/o taking out the engine or any kind of tune.
Julian, when will you be in the shop until tonite?
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
Heads for the Z are stupid expensive. It sucks to have 4 cams. My friend's LS1 has 1 cam -.-..the best street cam for his car costs like 400 bucks, and u can install it w/o taking out the engine or any kind of tune.
Julian, when will you be in the shop until tonite?
about 6pm..
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Cams typically run in the $1500's or so and I would definitely suggest doing that first because you are going to have to re-tune your car afterwards
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Damn, dont think I can come tonight then. I dont think your open tomarow. Let me know when you guys are open on weekdays. PM me, thank you.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Cams plus install is going to run 2K+ and your tune my be off enough for you to not see much gain, plus without headers the cams will not shine. I would suggest UTEC since you can get a good tune now and save for FI since you really don't need cams for FI.
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Utec
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+1 Utec
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How much is for the installation of the cams when the long block is already out? I think the I would do cams first then utec right after the install to tune it.
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Originally Posted by steela2110
Cams typically run in the $1500's or so and I would definitely suggest doing that first because you are going to have to re-tune your car afterwards
Then add to that about 1k for install it takes about 10 hrs to install them in the car.
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Originally Posted by captj3
Then add to that about 1k for install it takes about 10 hrs to install them in the car.
He speaks the truth..Cams take about 10 hours to do in the car..On te engine stand they take about 6 hrs , but you need to pull the enginewhich in itself takes 4-6 hours for most people..Even after doing cams you will not yeild the full hp potential until you tune for them..
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Hm. Okay. Thats what I was thinking about doing. UTEC and then just save like 10 grand together for some kind of F/I kit w/ a cam install within a year or 2. I feel cams are pretty important actually.. you can get the same power w/ less boost which means less stress on the engine, less heat ect. Id like to do it right the first time.
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How much power do you want to make that you need cams?

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Originally Posted by plumpzz
Hm. Okay. Thats what I was thinking about doing. UTEC and then just save like 10 grand together for some kind of F/I kit w/ a cam install within a year or 2. I feel cams are pretty important actually.. you can get the same power w/ less boost which means less stress on the engine, less heat ect. Id like to do it right the first time.
Unless your building the motor, cams are not needed..You will loose some down low power to make it up top..
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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You make my life to complicated. Back to the drawing board. lol

Okay so no cams, that saves me 2grand. I guess thats a good thing =D. Im 2 grand closer to some kind of FI.

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