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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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I'm in the middle of installing compustar and I can't find the clutch wire or the neutral position wire at all. Can someone please help me asap? Thanks!
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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The clutch wire should be on the clutch.

The NSS wire will be at the ECU, under the passengers dashboard.

It would have helped if you would have told us what year your car is. If it's an '03 the NSS wire is Brown/Yellow. I don't have info for any other years.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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my car is 03. I looked behind the clutch and there is two wires, which one would it be?

Thanks so much for telling me where the NSS wire is and the color. I really appreciate it. This forum rocks.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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Most likely you'll need a relay. Wire the relay to the starter output of the brain, and then wire the 87 and the 30 contacts to the two wires. This way, whenever the car cranks the clutch switch will be closed by the relay.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Am I suppose to get a ground when in gear or not in gear? I used the brown/yellow wire and tested it with DMM and I couldnt get a signal (the signal didnt change).
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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It should give you a ground when the car is in N
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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Try the other brown/yellow wire. There are two of them, one is engine coolant (0-5vdc) and the other is the PNP.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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I didnt know there were two. The second one did it. Thanks.

For the clutch wire, I test both of the wires behind the clutch but I'm not getting a signal... Can you please advise?

Thanks so much for the help.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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The clutch is an interlock, not an actual signal. I've never researched it, but most likely there won't be voltage on either side of the clutch switch UNTIL you put the key in the crank position. The starter voltage goes through the key switch and then to the clutch interlock. When you press the clutch in it makes the switch and allows voltage to go through the switch and to the actual starter. This is way you need a relay to bypass this switch when the remote start is cranking.
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I have the neutral postion wire connected to the e-brake (-) sensing pin on the compustar but it doesn't seem to have enough current. How are some of you guys connecting the neutral position wire to your remote starters? I tried connecting the wire to a relay but it doesn't seem to have enough current to drive that also.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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The other side of the switch is connected directly to ground, so current shouldn't be an issue.

You should definately be able to drive a relay with it with no problems. Are you sure you have the right wire?
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KPierson - thanks for your help. The brown/yellow neutral wire is the right wire. When it's in neutral, it's ground and when it's in gear there's a voltage.

I have the clutch wire connected to the starter of the brain and I have the neutral wire connected to where the brakes part of the brain.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Can anyone help me? Car is still starting in gear...
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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What isn't working? In post 13 you say you have it, but in post 14 you say you don't?

I just reread post 13 though and I'm confused by your unclear wording of the 'newtral wire connected to where the brakes part of the brain' statement.

If you connected the brown/yellow PNP signal to the brake shutdown input of the brain you wired it wrong (and are risking burning up the PNP switch whenever you press your brake pedal while the car is in N). The brake input is a 12vdc shutdown, the PNP switch is a (-) output. They will NOT work together.

If you don't have a dedicated NSS input on your brain then wire the PNP switch to the hoop pin input, making sure you diode isolate from your hood pin signal.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:28 AM
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I'm sorry in post #13, I was answering your question as to whether I got the right wire or not so I answer yes I do have the right wire and I know this by testing it out. The car however still starts in gear. sorry for the confusion.

I have a compustar 2w9002fmr brain. The brain has two brake sensor inputs, one for the regualr brakes and the other for e-brakes. The brown/yellow wire is connected to the e-brake input of the brain. I have a question in regards to connecting it to the hood pin input, if I connected to the hood pin input, then wouldn't the alarm go off everytime I'm in gear then?
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