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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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thanks, i also called today to check, and they said the same thing, and since it comes filled from wherever its shipped from they dont bother to check, which i think is dumb if its not even a precautionary measure just in case.
Thankfully my guy checked. I guess he knew this from all the G35s he previously swapped out.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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i don't want to read this entire thread.....

can anyone fill me in on what the dealerships are doing to fix the oil consumption problems in the 06s? i would appreciate it greatly.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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i don't want to read this entire thread.....

can anyone fill me in on what the dealerships are doing to fix the oil consumption problems in the 06s? i would appreciate it greatly.
It appears, that from some folks that have had to deal with it recently, that they will make you do the consumption tests and then replace the engine with this new v2 if the test comes back that you are having consumption (which it will).

Other then that, have them do three consumption tests and file a final repair notice, if that is the number of attempts in your state. At that point, they will certainly replace the engine with the new one.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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It appears, that from some folks that have had to deal with it recently, that they will make you do the consumption tests and then replace the engine with this new v2 if the test comes back that you are having consumption (which it will).

Other then that, have them do three consumption tests and file a final repair notice, if that is the number of attempts in your state. At that point, they will certainly replace the engine with the new one.
cool thank you very much for the post. i assume this will be under warranty if i have oil consumption problems?? i have like 6350 miles.

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dbasal
It appears, that from some folks that have had to deal with it recently, that they will make you do the consumption tests and then replace the engine with this new v2 if the test comes back that you are having consumption (which it will).

Other then that, have them do three consumption tests and file a final repair notice, if that is the number of attempts in your state. At that point, they will certainly replace the engine with the new one.
if i never filed a final repair notice, and this v2 (hopefully not) is not the fix....do you think itd be possible to file lemon, so long as i have my paperwork of testing?
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by webby350z
cool thank you very much for the post. i assume this will be under warranty if i have oil consumption problems?? i have like 6350 miles.
Yeah. You're covered.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by creationv2
if i never filed a final repair notice, and this v2 (hopefully not) is not the fix....do you think itd be possible to file lemon, so long as i have my paperwork of testing?
Yes if the v2 is a third repair attempt or later and still does not work (again though, depends on the state law).

If they simply swap the engines after the first consumption test, then that would be the first repair attempt. That is where it gets interesting. If they do that and it still consumes oil, then they still have 2 additional attempts. Not sure what they would do during that time though.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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I am new to this issue. Is this "oil consumption" problem specific to '06 engines or ppl are seeing it on '07 engines as well?

Thank you for the information.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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I am new to this issue. Is this "oil consumption" problem specific to '06 engines or ppl are seeing it on '07 engines as well?

Thank you for the information.
I have not heard anything on the 07s. We are getting into the time frame that I would expect to hear people complaining about it if there is an issue.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dbasal
I have not heard anything on the 07s. We are getting into the time frame that I would expect to hear people complaining about it if there is an issue.
I guess, it is not the best time to make a purchase decision just then. Thank you.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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Please add to and or fix this post as needed. This is from what I gather from the posts above so far.

Known V2 install recipients and their results:

1) Dbasal - maybe not fixed.
2) Theatrix - not known (I've PM'd asking for results)
3) RBlover - see above
4) 4Shizzil - appears to be complete success!!!
5) Zmaximus - still consuming
6) Antennahead - still pending

Please update as needed or chime in!
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Okay, upon getting the V2 as we all know i broke it in with a typical break in grace.Kept it under 4k no speeding at all and really just babied her for about 1500-2k. After that i opened her up and noticed 2 things. One this engine is more responsive then my previous one. I thought it was the placebo effect but.this is my daily driver and not my first Z ...and especially down low it feels more responsive is the only word i can use to describe it . Im gettting it baselined again over my previous dyno just to make sure. But this engine is quieter then my previous revup , no longer here the ticking noice in my garage until further dynos are done alot more livily in the lower rpm range. Up top the revup always had a good top end so, its really hard to tell since the damn engine was designed for top end power.

I had 3 oil changes 2 of them where supplied by nissan using dyno oil and my 3rd one i gave her 0w40 mobile 1 euro blend based on outstanding reviews from resolute and blackstone via vq35 oil analysis testing showing it to be a great oil for this engine. Also mated that to the a better micron synth filter. And so far 3rd oil change no loss at all. After this synthetic test after around 3k. I still change my oil at 3 k no matter what. It will be the last time i check it . And if shes still at H with some spirited driving , im done with oil issues. I honeslty wanna get to my goal to getting 300rwhp with the revup. 290 is where there at now and alot fo us should try to reach there with tuning. This oil thing has really put a hinder on that so. Hopefully by putting the same oil on my 3rd oil change that meets insane standards that ow40 meets in the racing world. I can rid myself finally of these issues and move onto mods. SO so far no oil issues and happy finally revving to 7k baseline coming soon.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
Okay, upon getting the V2 as we all know i broke it in with a typical break in grace.Kept it under 4k no speeding at all and really just babied her for about 1500-2k. After that i opened her up and noticed 2 things. One this engine is more responsive then my previous one. I thought it was the placebo effect but.this is my daily driver and not my first Z ...and especially down low it feels more responsive is the only word i can use to describe it . Im gettting it baselined again over my previous dyno just to make sure. But this engine is quieter then my previous revup , no longer here the ticking noice in my garage until further dynos are done alot more livily in the lower rpm range. Up top the revup always had a good top end so, its really hard to tell since the damn engine was designed for top end power.

I had 3 oil changes 2 of them where supplied by nissan using dyno oil and my 3rd one i gave her 0w40 mobile 1 euro blend based on outstanding reviews from resolute and blackstone via vq35 oil analysis testing showing it to be a great oil for this engine. Also mated that to the a better micron synth filter. And so far 3rd oil change no loss at all. After this synthetic test after around 3k. I still change my oil at 3 k no matter what. It will be the last time i check it . And if shes still at H with some spirited driving , im done with oil issues. I honeslty wanna get to my goal to getting 300rwhp with the revup. 290 is where there at now and alot fo us should try to reach there with tuning. This oil thing has really put a hinder on that so. Hopefully by putting the same oil on my 3rd oil change that meets insane standards that ow40 meets in the racing world. I can rid myself finally of these issues and move onto mods. SO so far no oil issues and happy finally revving to 7k baseline coming soon.
Thanks RB for the update! Add him to the success column
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Known V2 install recipients and their results:

1) Dbasal - maybe not fixed.
2) Theatrix - not known (I've PM'd asking for results)
3) RBlover - see above
4) 4Shizzil - appears to be complete success!!!
5) Zmaximus - still consuming
6) Antennahead - still pending
7) Creationv2 - dont know yet...only 100 miles

edit: dont you think we should actually make this list its own thread? so it wont get lost in the pages of pages of discussion?

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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V2 isn't the answer. Talked to a Nissan Master Tech today. He's one of the members of 350zen.org. Said Nissan still hasn't come up with a permanent fix. In fact, his dealership has been ordered not to do any more engine swaps until a permanent fix is found. Nissan is apparently blaming a new supplier in Mexico who made the pistons and rods.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ZPHILE
Please add to and or fix this post as needed. This is from what I gather from the posts above so far.

Known V2 install recipients and their results:

1) Dbasal - maybe not fixed.
2) Theatrix - not known (I've PM'd asking for results)
3) RBlover - see above
4) 4Shizzil - appears to be complete success!!!
5) Zmaximus - still consuming
6) Antennahead - still pending

Please update as needed or chime in!
I have approximately 700 miles on the new engine. I am driving out of town Friday for business, back that evening. By Saturday I should have about a 1000 miles on the engine and will check the oil level Saturday morning, will update you guys at that time.

John
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by i8acobra
V2 isn't the answer. Talked to a Nissan Master Tech today. He's one of the members of 350zen.org. Said Nissan still hasn't come up with a permanent fix. In fact, his dealership has been ordered not to do any more engine swaps until a permanent fix is found. Nissan is apparently blaming a new supplier in Mexico who made the pistons and rods.
Interesting, some, like RBlover69 and 4Shizzil are not having consumption issues with the V2.

John
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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yea, ...its BS. the new rings and pistons are def the trick so far. I suggest you talk to someone beyond techs. Because u will get a diff story each time.The swaps are being done on a case by case basis or else they would be replaceing cars via lemon law. All engine parts from what i know are not being supplied from new mexico but a plant in japan. Ima check the part numbers.

so far all parts look like they come from and are built in Iwaki, Japan , none of which are made or supplied by newmexico. The reworked piston and rings are the result of handbuilt engines preassmbled there and shipped here in a small number since the oil issue isnt a issue that all revup owners or S1 owners have , since the s1 and the revup are basically the same setup.

One thing i was told was to make sure that ur engine isnt a rebuild revup . because the issue will just reoccur most def. But to make sure its the V2 or the handbuilt version. U can also tell by the part numbers im told and by the bolts being silver not bronze from what my corporate rep at nissan descirbed. My engine came from japan to newyork shipped from there directly to univeral nissan in florida after making stops at jacksonville from what the manifest was told to me. None of which was ever mentioned nor described as anything given to them or made in the US for the fix for these engines.Since the problem is often replicated in just replacing a revup with a none v2 revup. They have word not to swap engine for engine, since delears are eager to do so because its almost a 10k job in this situation. To order these limted engines that are limited in supply there is actually a waiting list. I actually waited a month for mine ....and acutally knew when dbais engine came in because they told me 2 engines where shipped to florida but coming in from different ports.

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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yea, ...its BS. the new rings and pistons are def the trick so far. I suggest you talk to someone beyond techs. Because u will get a diff story each time.The swaps are being done on a case by case basis or else they would be replaceing cars via lemon law. All engine parts from what i know are not being supplied from new mexico but a plant in japan. Ima check the part numbers.

so far all parts look like they come from and are built in Iwaki, Japan , none of which are made or supplied by newmexico. The reworked piston and rings are the result of handbuilt engines preassmbled there and shipped here in a small number since the oil issue isnt a issue that all revup owners or S1 owners have , since the s1 and the revup are basically the same setup.

One thing i was told was to make sure that ur engine isnt a rebuild revup . because the issue will just reoccur most def. But to make sure its the V2 or the handbuilt version. U can also tell by the part numbers im told and by the bolts being silver not bronze from what my corporate rep at nissan descirbed. My engine came from japan to newyork shipped from there directly to univeral nissan in florida after making stops at jacksonville from what the manifest was told to me. None of which was ever mentioned nor described as anything given to them or made in the US for the fix for these engines.Since the problem is often replicated in just replacing a revup with a none v2 revup. They have word not to swap engine for engine, since delears are eager to do so because its almost a 10k job in this situation. To order these limted engines that are limited in supply there is actually a waiting list. I actually waited a month for mine ....and acutally knew when dbais engine came in because they told me 2 engines where shipped to florida but coming in from different ports.
great info RB. Thanks
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I have approximately 700 miles on the new engine. I am driving out of town Friday for business, back that evening. By Saturday I should have about a 1000 miles on the engine and will check the oil level Saturday morning, will update you guys at that time.

John
Are you aware that new engines almost ALWAYS burn oil at first while the rings and seals get fully seated and conditioned? So don't worry about "consumption" until you have some meaningful mileage on the car; just keep an eye on it and top-off as necessary.

If you are losing a large-enough amount a few thousand miles from now, only then will you have a valid cause for concern.
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