you came off as one.

the Z is NA, no chips to boost the pressure and rack up the ponies. what can ya do. but when there is a turbo, I highly doubt youll manage 350ftlbs of torque without lag pushing it a good bit past 2500rpms.

 

Sorry to anyone who thought I came off as a DICK.

But Yes, the S4 is a TORQUE BEAST at below 2,500RPM!
Ask any S4 owner or check out a site like Audi performance racing.
They have Dyno charts. Boost comes on fast with 2 small KO3's!
I didn't even upgrade to the KO4s.

Enough with trying to prove to everyone that S4's are powerful. Everyone who knows about them will tell you they are.
The Z is a great platform to build on and I intend to purchase a turbo kit for it. Nothing to crazy. I would be happy with the same feel I get from the S4, not to mention the Z is a bit LIGHTER so now where talking.

 

aight well your being nice, so Ill admit I was a bit suprised when I saw S4 had max torque at 1800rpms

 

Bro, we will be chating alot on this forum so I'll chill out a bit on my strong opinions and kinda ease my way into this forum. You no what I'm saying?

Can someone please help me post a picture? I went to the browse button and chose a pic and double clicked on it but nothing gets attached.

 

I like the S4... been wanting one for quite some time but always out of reach. =( Finding a good used one is pretty tough. Question, did you have any problems with the stock turbos? About two years ago, when I had my Z32TT, a few guys were saying that they had to have the turbos from their S4's replaced below 40k or so.

 

Yes, S4 is a nice car. Minimal turbo lag, readily available HP and torque, AWD. Very nice car, which is why it's up there with M3 and other tier 1 cars.

If I had the need for a rally car, carrying 2 more passenger, and an extra $20K lying around in my bank account I would get a S4.

But I don't go to drag strips, drive around rough terrain with stones and dirt, or move a lot of stuff.

So a convertible 350Z suits my needs more. And need be I'm sure with some moderate upgrades the 350Z can get under 5 sec 0-60 times.

 

Yes, I have replaced my turbos at 50,000 miles. They blew, but that is because chipping the S4 puts alot of stress on those tiny KO4's. Before chip boost is around 9lbs after chip 16lbs!

I love the car but I am worried about reliability and NO WARRANTY! IT is a ticking timebomb.

I want to post a pic I just don't know how.

 

Woops missed the second page!

If your intending to build the car the way you say, the 350 is not the best choice by a long shot. You'd be better off buying a factory turbo car and going from there. The amount of internal engine work you'd need to do would probably cost more time and money you've already put into the Audi. All the tubo kits comming out in the near future are being built for the 10.3:1 compression, so it's small turbos, small piping, small everything. These kits would give you 400hp and 350ft/lbs+ but beleive me when I say it definately won't feel like you Audi by a long shot. You'd need a stroker kit, decent sized turbos, custom piping and probably a Nitrous kit to spool the turbos quick enough to give you the torque down low. In fact most mods out now, whether it's NA, Turbo or SC shift the peak HP and torque higher in the RPM curve, not lower. So 350 owners will finaly be able to feel a torque spike but not util just before shifting. Good luck in your quest, let us know what you decide to do.

 

I have to agree too that coming from a car with boatloads of torque down low the Z doesn't really feel that torquey, but for an NA V6 it is impressive. I think with the turbo kits coming out now it would give you close to the torque you would desire. With 10.3:1 compression and properly sized turbos it should spool quickly. I don't know if it will make the torque as low down as the Audi, but it should be fairly close, and on top end I would be willing to bet it would be much better.

 

ok, I don't quite care if S4 has more torque or faster or whatever. I had a modifed a4 before my Z. Of course it wasn't like an s4 but, why are we even comparing Z and S4, to me one is a pure sports car and the other is a family car with lots of power... whatever makes you happy...

 

that is even more true with the upcoming S4 with V8 engine.

 

Welcome to the board.

You should have said the stock Z's have low torque. If it didn't have any Torque it wouldn't move. Ya Feel?

**My** Z has Torque. Lot's of it, and will soon have more!

I just flip the switch. Everything isn't black and white, sometimes it's gray or in your case smoked...

I have no idea WTF that means, I thik I need to go crash

 

I thought you said you didn't upgrade to K04s?

I am a past Audi owner and fan, and nobody is debating they are nice cars. I think you came in expecting to get attacked and nobody really attacked you. We are a friendly bunch here, everyone seems to think we aren't, and then we've got the slew of people who like to come here and dog our car when we show nothing but respect for other makes and models.

Glad to have you here.

 

Hey Bro,

Thanks for welcoming me. I must correct myself. I replaced the stock KO3's with another new set of stock KO3's. I had to because the Champion Dealership was keeping a close eye out for my car. Trust me, the KO4's were ready to be handed to the mechanic on the down low but I couldn't do it.

I am an enthusiast. When I went on a 350 test drive, the first thing I noticed when driving out of the dealership and flooring the gas in first gear was no instant down low torque. I understand that, but when the test drive was over I was extremely excited. Even though I was missing the torque of my car, I feel in love with how nimble and light the car felt. Power is great but I have always been a HUGE fan of suspension setup and HANDLING. Grant it with the S4 you have a pretty controllable slide and take turns in the rain like it was dry BUT THE Z IS STILL MORE FUN!

My first post was basically asking, Why are people saying the Z has great torque? I was just trying to understand it, that's all. I hate confrontations or any type of bashing. I just wanted to hear why people feel that way.

Again thanks for welcoming me and I hope this site can keep me informed with the latest tips and news for the Z.

If there are any Z owners in the South Florida area or local clubs contact me.

 

The way you stated your question in your first post was extremely subjective, just as this topic is as well. Saying that the Z has no torque is subjective. You say that we all moved up from 4 cylinder cars... well, you moved from one hell of a car (one nice car at that) with loads of torque as well.

 

Your right! We all moved up to a GREAT CAR! Thanks for the compliment. Like I said, the S4 was a ticking timebomb. Enough explaning about my posts but yes I did have some backlashing remarks. Damn, chill out a bit. I'm getting emails telling me don't worry about certain peeps on this forum and my remarks weren't that bad. Hey, I love you all! MY BAD!!! and please don't cry. Wow, I'm worn out. THE END........

 

Hahahaha. S4 is easily modifiable to those numbers that was stated. It's a turbo car! It makes globs of power and torque. As for the 350Z I believe if you turbo charge it 350-400whp range is pretty reasonable for the motor. However stock 350Z is by no means considered fast or powerful. I mean it shares a motor with an Altima and Maxima. Get over this fact and realize you got a great car at a GREAT price, only possible because they decided to use the same motor in different platforms...

Derek

 

How much torque does you car have in the higher RPM ranges? does it peak at 2500rpm?

 

Well the torque comes in full at below 2,200RPM and starts dropping off in the upper range obviously. S4 guys/girls are told to shift around 6000rpms maybe abit less. If you have an M3 you have got great gears. You can rev the **** out of it while I shift before you.

The beauty of the S4's torque is that most cars on the street will NEVER have that much TQ that low. Therefore GREAT jump starts off the line along with ALL Wheel Drive even against SUPRAS! Audis have the best all wheel drive system period! That is a fact. I have beaten my friends new M3s with SMG's but they were great races. The M3 hatchbacks/coupes was a good race as well but I was victorious in the end. Porsches and corvettes depending on their modifications are tough but have beaten them. NO WAY ON THE ZO6!FAST.

 

Since this is so "factual" can I see your evidence?
Sorry, but I beg to differ!

For somone who says they dont like confrontations, you shure dont seem like it from your posts!

Anyhow, welcome to the board.