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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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KA24 with about 10-12 psi gets around 400whp and 450tq, on stock internals. Parts are cheap engines are cheap. Hell I should of put one in my Z. Its a truck motor with a long stroke so it makes lots and lots of tq.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
VQ > RB

Stock vs stock obviously the RB is better for boost, but a built VQ has a much better powerband.
I loled, built VQ vs built RB the RB will have a much larger rpm band seeing that you will be making power up easily up to 9000rpm

Get a RB26
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by supra crazy
I loled, built VQ vs built RB the RB will have a much larger rpm band seeing that you will be making power up easily up to 9000rpm

Get a RB26

So does a Honda Vtec motor.

I think what Alberto meant was the greater amount of hp and torque in the begining and middle of the power band which is broader in the VQ.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Power from 5000-9000rpm's vs power from 3000-7000rpm's, I'll take the ladder Anybody that says RB is a flaming fanboy...
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Power from 5000-9000rpm's vs power from 3000-7000rpm's, I'll take the ladder Anybody that says RB is a flaming fanboy...
Why would someone be a "RB fanboy" If it is a fact that the RB26 is a superior motor then a Vq35de?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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Personally I would stay with the VQ because I think it will be a more enjoyable car at high HP.

The other thing is if I had to choose between an inline 6 I would get the 2JZ. Easier to find people who will work on it, you need a standalone either way and the ezhaust manifold is not on the steering spindle side like the RB26 which could make for a better install IMO.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Nothing like adding 600-700 lbs of motor up front.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Ecotec 4
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
On a stock VQ you'd be right but on a VQ that was built including sleeves and a closed deck, the VQ would kick the RB's a$$. The sheer displacement would gaurantee that plus there woul be better torque. The RB is kinda peeky.

Not everybody $hits out money to fully build engines. The RB block and head flow just fine, and can handle slugs larger than the 350Z headlights. lol
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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It's pretty sick knowing a 2.6L puts out that much power and revs that high.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
It's pretty sick knowing a 2.6L puts out that much power and revs that high.
I guess you haven't seen an 11,000 rpm, almost 400 cu.in supercharged v8 running 6s in the 1/4 mile (in a 3000 pound car).....that's nasty power!!!
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
I guess you haven't seen an 11,000 rpm, almost 400 cu.in supercharged v8 running 6s in the 1/4 mile (in a 3000 pound car).....that's nasty power!!!
it's definitely not a 3000 lb car dude. that would be a fully gutted race car for those numbers. Mustangs are gay period, no matter how fast you can make them.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
I guess you haven't seen an 11,000 rpm, almost 400 cu.in supercharged v8 running 6s in the 1/4 mile (in a 3000 pound car).....that's nasty power!!!
I have seen that, but i'm saying nissan built a pretty sick engine from the factory. A small 2.6L engine that could rev to 9k rpm putting those power numbers down is pretty impressive.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
I have seen that, but i'm saying nissan built a pretty sick engine from the factory. A small 2.6L engine that could rev to 9k rpm putting those power numbers down is pretty impressive.
The RB is an impressive motor. But not worth the severe weight penality. Especially when a more modern, all alumin, big displacment, V8 that puts out over 150 more hp na stock is available. With an estimated total weight penality for this being only 50-75lbs or so, it's a no brainer to me.

If that is, one can get over the illogical and silly JDM yO factor.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The RB is an impressive motor. But not worth the severe weight penality. Especially when a more modern, all alumin, big displacment, V8 that puts out over 150 more hp na stock is available. With an estimated total weight penality for this being only 50-75lbs or so, it's a no brainer to me.

If that is, one can get over the illogical and silly JDM yO factor.
Well the JDM bling bling factor does count for something right?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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AN RB swap would be nice and about the same cost because you essentially have to do the same thing if you plan to build it up.

-Remove motor
-Rebuild motor
-Remount motor
-Tune car

All that would be different is buying the RB (cost of a short block), buying the upgrades (same cost), and then swapping it in (cost of assembly). Then get her tuned and your okay.

The mounting info and tranny shouldn't be TOO hard to find.

But you better do your research if you take the RB path.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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if the rb was such a good motor, wouldnt it be in the new gtr? its a good motor but old news.

the vq's head supposedly flows like 300% better than the 2jz.

people are still getting into the VQ. wait a few more years and itll be feared just as much as the 2jz and RB.

if u wanna do something crazy. stroke that b1atch to 4.3L
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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RBs top out at about 400whp on stock turbos also, so if you want 400hp buy a Vortech or Greddy kit, UTEC and pay a good tuner to work their magic. If I remember correctly after 450whp the RB need internal work as well, so you're looking at a motor build as well, which you might as well stick with the VQ. The only thing better about the RB would be if you wanted an all out drag car. Oh and the people *****ing about the weight of the RB, it wouldn't really be much of an issue because it sits lower and farther back than the VQ.
Like Quamen said, you'd be better off going with a 2JZ. I looked into the RB swap and then decided that it wasn't really worth it. I even had a sponsor who was going to hook me up with an RB26 engine(53,000miles) and RB25 tranny for $3,500.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ohSIXz
if the rb was such a good motor, wouldnt it be in the new gtr? its a good motor but old news.

the vq's head supposedly flows like 300% better than the 2jz.

people are still getting into the VQ. wait a few more years and itll be feared just as much as the 2jz and RB.

if u wanna do something crazy. stroke that b1atch to 4.3L
The RB was one of the best motors in automotive history. But with that same logic why is there an LS6/7, why has there not been another 2JZ made and put into other cars? Because everyone advances and reaches the end of it's production.

Also, I don't understand the airflow comparison. What's the point you are trying to make? You can run as much air as you want through an engine but the efficiency and design of it is what makes it so great.

Not quite sure I follow your statements correctly.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by widebody350
RBs top out at about 400whp on stock turbos also, so if you want 400hp buy a Vortech or Greddy kit, UTEC and pay a good tuner to work their magic. If I remember correctly after 450whp the RB need internal work as well, so you're looking at a motor build as well, which you might as well stick with the VQ. The only thing better about the RB would be if you wanted an all out drag car. Oh and the people *****ing about the weight of the RB, it wouldn't really be much of an issue because it sits lower and farther back than the VQ.
Like Quamen said, you'd be better off going with a 2JZ. I looked into the RB swap and then decided that it wasn't really worth it. I even had a sponsor who was going to hook me up with an RB26 engine(53,000miles) and RB25 tranny for $3,500.
Considering that you can pick up an Rb26 for 5,000 on ebay and then a tranny for 1200 on top of that, you had a pretty damn good deal.

So what made you decide else wise?
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