Built VQ or RB26
06-18-2007, 08:18 AM
#22
Originally Posted by Alberto
VQ > RB
Stock vs stock obviously the RB is better for boost, but a built VQ has a much better powerband.
Stock vs stock obviously the RB is better for boost, but a built VQ has a much better powerband.
Get a RB26
06-18-2007, 08:19 AM
#23
Originally Posted by supra crazy
I loled, built VQ vs built RB the RB will have a much larger rpm band seeing that you will be making power up easily up to 9000rpm
Get a RB26
Get a RB26
So does a Honda Vtec motor.
I think what Alberto meant was the greater amount of hp and torque in the begining and middle of the power band which is broader in the VQ.
06-18-2007, 08:42 AM
#25
Originally Posted by Alberto
Power from 5000-9000rpm's vs power from 3000-7000rpm's, I'll take the ladder
Anybody that says RB is a flaming fanboy...
Anybody that says RB is a flaming fanboy...
06-18-2007, 08:48 AM
#26
Personally I would stay with the VQ because I think it will be a more enjoyable car at high HP.
The other thing is if I had to choose between an inline 6 I would get the 2JZ. Easier to find people who will work on it, you need a standalone either way and the ezhaust manifold is not on the steering spindle side like the RB26 which could make for a better install IMO.
The other thing is if I had to choose between an inline 6 I would get the 2JZ. Easier to find people who will work on it, you need a standalone either way and the ezhaust manifold is not on the steering spindle side like the RB26 which could make for a better install IMO.
06-18-2007, 11:37 AM
#29
Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
On a stock VQ you'd be right but on a VQ that was built including sleeves and a closed deck, the VQ would kick the RB's a$$. The sheer displacement would gaurantee that plus there woul be better torque. The RB is kinda peeky.
Not everybody $hits out money to fully build engines. The RB block and head flow just fine, and can handle slugs larger than the 350Z headlights. lol
06-18-2007, 11:45 AM
#31
Originally Posted by 97supratt
It's pretty sick knowing a 2.6L puts out that much power and revs that high.
06-18-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
I guess you haven't seen an 11,000 rpm, almost 400 cu.in supercharged v8 running 6s in the 1/4 mile (in a 3000 pound car).....that's nasty power!!!
06-18-2007, 11:56 AM
#33
Originally Posted by QuadCam
I guess you haven't seen an 11,000 rpm, almost 400 cu.in supercharged v8 running 6s in the 1/4 mile (in a 3000 pound car).....that's nasty power!!!
06-18-2007, 12:01 PM
#34
Originally Posted by 97supratt
I have seen that, but i'm saying nissan built a pretty sick engine from the factory. A small 2.6L engine that could rev to 9k rpm putting those power numbers down is pretty impressive.
If that is, one can get over the illogical and silly JDM yO factor.
06-18-2007, 12:04 PM
#35
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The RB is an impressive motor. But not worth the severe weight penality. Especially when a more modern, all alumin, big displacment, V8 that puts out over 150 more hp na stock is available. With an estimated total weight penality for this being only 50-75lbs or so, it's a no brainer to me.
If that is, one can get over the illogical and silly JDM yO factor.
If that is, one can get over the illogical and silly JDM yO factor.
06-18-2007, 12:04 PM
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AN RB swap would be nice and about the same cost because you essentially have to do the same thing if you plan to build it up.
-Remove motor
-Rebuild motor
-Remount motor
-Tune car
All that would be different is buying the RB (cost of a short block), buying the upgrades (same cost), and then swapping it in (cost of assembly). Then get her tuned and your okay.
The mounting info and tranny shouldn't be TOO hard to find.
But you better do your research if you take the RB path.
-Remove motor
-Rebuild motor
-Remount motor
-Tune car
All that would be different is buying the RB (cost of a short block), buying the upgrades (same cost), and then swapping it in (cost of assembly). Then get her tuned and your okay.
The mounting info and tranny shouldn't be TOO hard to find.
But you better do your research if you take the RB path.
06-18-2007, 12:11 PM
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if the rb was such a good motor, wouldnt it be in the new gtr? its a good motor but old news.
the vq's head supposedly flows like 300% better than the 2jz.
people are still getting into the VQ. wait a few more years and itll be feared just as much as the 2jz and RB.
if u wanna do something crazy. stroke that b1atch to 4.3L
the vq's head supposedly flows like 300% better than the 2jz.
people are still getting into the VQ. wait a few more years and itll be feared just as much as the 2jz and RB.
if u wanna do something crazy. stroke that b1atch to 4.3L
06-18-2007, 12:15 PM
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RBs top out at about 400whp on stock turbos also, so if you want 400hp buy a Vortech or Greddy kit, UTEC and pay a good tuner to work their magic. If I remember correctly after 450whp the RB need internal work as well, so you're looking at a motor build as well, which you might as well stick with the VQ. The only thing better about the RB would be if you wanted an all out drag car. Oh and the people *****ing about the weight of the RB, it wouldn't really be much of an issue because it sits lower and farther back than the VQ.
Like Quamen said, you'd be better off going with a 2JZ. I looked into the RB swap and then decided that it wasn't really worth it. I even had a sponsor who was going to hook me up with an RB26 engine(53,000miles) and RB25 tranny for $3,500.
Like Quamen said, you'd be better off going with a 2JZ. I looked into the RB swap and then decided that it wasn't really worth it. I even had a sponsor who was going to hook me up with an RB26 engine(53,000miles) and RB25 tranny for $3,500.
06-18-2007, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ohSIXz
if the rb was such a good motor, wouldnt it be in the new gtr? its a good motor but old news.
the vq's head supposedly flows like 300% better than the 2jz.
people are still getting into the VQ. wait a few more years and itll be feared just as much as the 2jz and RB.
if u wanna do something crazy. stroke that b1atch to 4.3L
the vq's head supposedly flows like 300% better than the 2jz.
people are still getting into the VQ. wait a few more years and itll be feared just as much as the 2jz and RB.
if u wanna do something crazy. stroke that b1atch to 4.3L
Also, I don't understand the airflow comparison. What's the point you are trying to make? You can run as much air as you want through an engine but the efficiency and design of it is what makes it so great.
Not quite sure I follow your statements correctly.
06-18-2007, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by widebody350
RBs top out at about 400whp on stock turbos also, so if you want 400hp buy a Vortech or Greddy kit, UTEC and pay a good tuner to work their magic. If I remember correctly after 450whp the RB need internal work as well, so you're looking at a motor build as well, which you might as well stick with the VQ. The only thing better about the RB would be if you wanted an all out drag car. Oh and the people *****ing about the weight of the RB, it wouldn't really be much of an issue because it sits lower and farther back than the VQ.
Like Quamen said, you'd be better off going with a 2JZ. I looked into the RB swap and then decided that it wasn't really worth it. I even had a sponsor who was going to hook me up with an RB26 engine(53,000miles) and RB25 tranny for $3,500.
Like Quamen said, you'd be better off going with a 2JZ. I looked into the RB swap and then decided that it wasn't really worth it. I even had a sponsor who was going to hook me up with an RB26 engine(53,000miles) and RB25 tranny for $3,500.
So what made you decide else wise?