Anyone have an approximation of how long it would take a tuner to install Borla TD Exhaust/Headers, Cams, and a manifold? Thanks

 

on a revup 06

 

Depends on manifold plus whether the cams are measured to select new valve shims probably 20 + hours to do it right. Surely not more than 30 hours.

 

I guess I'll be the first to tell you. You will save your self a lot of money and time by not installing the headers. There not worth it at all. Take it from experience.

 

I appreciate your honesty. I had been reading that lately.

Some shops have an exhaust/headers package for ~1400. I know with headers most often you have to pull the engine which kills you on labor for unsubstantiated gains.

I'm trying to keep my spending/power ratio as low as possible and still keep it NA or at least not make NA mods that i'll have to reverse if i want to go FI etc.

I guess that leaves me with exhaust/manifold/popcharger/cams/pulleys/NO2 sprayer/??/??/??


thanks agains Viz and Q45

 

Agreed...I would leave headers as your last modification option, due to the relatively high labor cost to install them.

Exhausts usually take 1.5 hrs, depending on which one, and if relocation of the EVAP can is required.

 

Headers and exhaust = atleast 6-10 hours

cams - not sure, i would think atleast another 6 hours

manifold - 2 hours

Headers aren't worth it, you usually dont have to pull the engine (except maybe with crawford) but you have to tilt it slightly by unhooking some motor mounts. Also had to unhook my front control arms for more breathing room. 3-5 extensions later and you can reach up to the bolts. PITA, not worth it $/HP.

 

+1
for all of that money(90% of it labor) and the gain is not worth it.
125 (used headers)
640 (install)
5 hp gain

 

$100 per real horsepower is a great deal in NA world, Torque gains are usully $150 each after the first 5-7 lb/ft.

 

Intake manifold - 2 hours if your first time.
Borla TD - It comes in a bunch of pieces for 1.5 - 2 hours
Headers - Took me 12 hours on jack stands taking my time
Cams - I would say in between 12 and 20 hours

 

Exhaust = 1 hour with all tools at your side and a good night's rest
headers = ATLEAST 4 hours working nonstop.


Honestly... headers do almost nothing. NOT worth the time/losing carb etc

 

If you're looking at the power to $ ratio, open up the back end and spray. Forget the rest and save your $$$.

 

thanks again guys... I just bought a popcharger and i'm thinking JWT s7 cams, Borla TD exhaust, and Cosworth manifold

anyone have a guesstimate for hp gains...i'm figuring approx 50whp with a good tune if not a little more...that works out to approx $100/hp if it takes:

cams @~12hrs
borla td @~2hrs
manifold @~2hrs