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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Question HKS DLI II ??? does ti make a diffrence?

i would like to know if it makes any NA power difference?
or should i use 500 dollars somewere else!
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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use the money somewhere else....works better for f1...imo...get headers....
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by duckypower
i would like to know if it makes any NA power difference?
or should i use 500 dollars somewere else!
i would get rid of the cai, buy a utec and get a tune.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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UTEC

I like how he puts his age in his sig.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by duckypower
i would like to know if it makes any NA power difference?
or should i use 500 dollars somewere else!
Judging from your sig, you should have put your money somewhere else long ago. Grounding kit, voltage stabilizer, CAI, a catch can??? And now you're asking about an ignition enhancement? Dude, take some time to read through this forum, save your money for something that will actually improve your car.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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NA no, not worth it IMO
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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well utec is on the way along with jwt kit so i dont know were else to go with NA mods....cams should be in by january along with nitrous1
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by duckypower
i would like to know if it makes any NA power difference?
or should i use 500 dollars somewere else!
NOTHING makes any N/A power difference. Haven't people learned this by now? Nitrous or FI are your options for power
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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NOTHING makes any N/A power difference. Haven't people learned this by now? Nitrous or FI are your options for power
too true. i guess its that people are either scared of FI or are simply not patient enough to save up and make the plunge. if i was the OP, i would sell my NA mods, and just start saving for FI, but im biased, because thats exactly what i did.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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About as helpful as a greddy catch can.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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The advantage to the DLI II is it lets you run a larger gap on your plugs because it improves spark. When you're NA, its not that big a deal since we have a fairly wide gap. When you're FI, you need to run a smaller gap plug which is more prone to being fouled. This lets you run a larger gap for FI which is basically insurance on your motor, not a performance adder.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
NOTHING makes any N/A power difference. Haven't people learned this by now? Nitrous or FI are your options for power
strange, when I was NA I gained 40-50whp with cams, headers, plenum, HF cats, exhaust, intake, pulley, and tune along with tilton clutch/flywheel and 3.9 final drive

I know, I thought it was weird too.
I mean, one dynojet dyno said 281whp, another said 285whp and later a dyno dynamics said 272whp. I could swear the car was quite a bit faster but like you said, NA mods don't do anything at all
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
strange, when I was NA I gained 40-50whp with cams, headers, plenum, HF cats, exhaust, intake, pulley, and tune along with tilton clutch/flywheel and 3.9 final drive

I know, I thought it was weird too.
I mean, one dynojet dyno said 281whp, another said 285whp and later a dyno dynamics said 272whp. I could swear the car was quite a bit faster but like you said, NA mods don't do anything at all

Pully, tilton, 3.9??? They dont add power. The key word in that is TUNE!

And yes, with the 3.9 the car does feel quite a bit faster.

OP: be patient and wait, there realy isnt too many mods that you can do NA that will benifit you in FI. So be patient, save up, and get ready for a long bumpy road to FI.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
strange, when I was NA I gained 40-50whp with cams, headers, plenum, HF cats, exhaust, intake, pulley, and tune along with tilton clutch/flywheel and 3.9 final drive

I know, I thought it was weird too.
I mean, one dynojet dyno said 281whp, another said 285whp and later a dyno dynamics said 272whp. I could swear the car was quite a bit faster but like you said, NA mods don't do anything at all
how much did you spend for those gains? You probably had upwords of 6-7 grand, if not more, for a measily 40 hp. and really were you that much faster? My car gained about 20-30 hp on N/A mods (pulled 256 whp dynojet), and for the most part wasn't any faster.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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that's too bad your car wasn't any faster. Mine was unquestionably faster than stock. My dad had just bought an auto C6 vette and I could almost hold my own with him until around 60-70mph

I had different goals for my car then than I do now and I was mainly focused on improving everything, not just the power, so I was more inclined to spend 10k on making well rounded improvements

the car dropped 100 lbs (almost 1/4 of it being rotational mass), gained 40-50whp, handled better, had better cooling capacity, and was still reliable (or at least more reliable than going FI was known for at that time) My Z was my only car at the time so reliability was the #1 issue

Back then there were greddy's and ATI's blowing up engines everywhere and the APS TT had just been announced to be coming out and was unproven. ST's didn't exist yet so it was either greddy, PE, stillen, ATI, vortech, nitrous, or NA.

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
that's too bad your car wasn't any faster. Mine was unquestionably faster than stock. My dad had just bought an auto C6 vette and I could almost hold my own with him until around 60-70mph

I had different goals for my car then than I do now and I was mainly focused on improving everything, not just the power, so I was more inclined to spend 10k on making well rounded improvements

the car dropped 100 lbs (almost 1/4 of it being rotational mass), gained 40-50whp, handled better, had better cooling capacity, and was still reliable (or at least more reliable than going FI was known for at that time) My Z was my only car at the time so reliability was the #1 issue

Back then there were greddy's and ATI's blowing up engines everywhere and the APS TT had just been announced to be coming out and was unproven. ST's didn't exist yet so it was either greddy, PE, stillen, ATI, vortech, nitrous, or NA.
Damn at least you had all those choices,i only had,ati,greddy and the stillen and all but one was blowing everything up.
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