whoopazz1

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Hey guys/gals...

Just looking into buying a 07 Enthusiast (<--- i think)... they guy says it has TCS with cloth seats, so I think that the only model without TCS is the base model correct?...

And 2nd question, I owned a 03 Track, and I know it had LSD, but I'm wondering if that has changed at all for the 07, cuz it says it has the VLSD...

Can someone clear that up for me maybe....

Much appreciated.

Chugg

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i belive they are the same...the v stands for viscus it means its like a goey liquid that kinda sucks.....get a new lsd and throw it in will work so muhc better

pmohr

Yes, they are the same. A VLSD is always an LSD, an LSD is not always a VLSD.

Good reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential

track1z

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LSD is a broad discription of Limited Slip Diffy's.You actully have a few differant types of LSD's on the market.Use your GOOGLE and do some reading.

helldorado

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All models for all years that had a LSD, it was a viscous LSD (VLSD).

whoopazz1

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Great, thx for the info guys.

So they haven't really changed throughout the years.... 03-07...

I was happy when I turned off my VDC on my 03 track to have some fun.... just lookin to make sure that the 07 is still the same.

I don't want just one wheel spinning lol...

whoopazz1

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Sorry never mind my earlier post, thx again.

Chugg

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base model does not come with a LSD at all

Escobar

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^ true, open diff. stock.

tienlo

LSD is any differential that locks selectively - for example locking when power is applied (eg clutch type), or one wheel is spinning more than the other (eg viscous). When it isn't locked, it releases allowing the wheels to roll independently of each other, and making turning tight circles etc smooth.

VLSD uses friction plates with differential oil between them. When one wheel spins more than the other, the oil heats up, expands, and locks the friction plates together, thereby locking the left and right wheels.

edit:
the problem with a VLSD is to activate the diff, one wheel has to be spinning, before it realises it has to lock. Its also very fragile. Thats why racers like a differential which locks prior to one wheel spinning (torsen / clutch type).

aggietsi

Long technical description. Good read, though.

http://www.dallasimports.net/forums/...howtopic=57484

helldorado

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Reading comprehension please. I said for models that had LSD, it was VLSD, I didn't say anything about base models having LSD or all models having LSD.

Its a bit different than a traditional clutch style LSD though. The plates are smaller and much thinner, contained within the viscous coupling. The big thing though is that the differential oil doesn't have any bearing on the viscous fluid contained in the coupling and the metal discs are not replaceable. So if the unit gets too hot, it can lose effectiveness. Also, a rebuild of the diff means a new coupling is required.

Hoooper

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actually, there are clutch type discs in a vlsd ^^^. this is what wears out in some older ones

helldorado

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Yes, you're right. I was thinking he was referring to a full clutch plate setup, not the internal design, and after rereading, I was mistaken.