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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Here you go. I am not going to go into a vendor thread and accuse anyone of selling 300 dollar snake oil but you should read this before laying out the cash.

http://www.crosslake.net/~dbipes/spr...intBooster.pdf
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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the vendor I see selling this junk is at least offering a 30 day trial run / complete refund if you aren't happy with it at least. : )
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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wow. That guy went really in depth with testing that thing and seems to know his stuff. After reing that, I don't think I would need a 30 day trial to say no. Just my .02. I would rather have a lightened flywheel.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Entaille
the vendor I see selling this junk is at least offering a 30 day trial run / complete refund if you aren't happy with it at least. : )
yes, they are hoping the placebo effect will get them sales....it is like that universal mod chip on Ebay, all it takes is a few sales to people that think they worked like magic and the product will make big proffits.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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word, let stupid people spend their money. : )
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yes, they are hoping the placebo effect will get them sales....it is like that universal mod chip on Ebay, all it takes is a few sales to people that think they worked like magic and the product will make big proffits.
Not exactly. We're looking to get real world feedback from customers so that we can make a decision as to whether or not this is a product that we want to promote and stand behind. That is why we're offering the 30 Day trial on them. If I send out 10 of these and 6 of them come back at the end of 30 days then it's safe to say that we're not going to sell them anymore. If 1 comes back and I have 9 satisfied customers then I'm going to keep chugging along pushing them.

I read the data in that white sheet and there are some valid points, it's also tested on an automatic car, a large car at that, and a car with considerably different controls and electronics. Results are not going to be the same for every vehicle, and lets be realistic while that was a thourough test he ran it is impossible to recreate the same throttle modulation in every test using a human right foot. The "placebo effect" works both ways, if the tester was predisposed to believe that the product was "snake oil" then there is the possibility that his results could be skewed as such. I'm not saying that is the case but rather that it is possible.

I'm not marketing this product as a be all end all wonder device. You'll notice that I made no claims as to HP gains and you don't see us throwing out random numbers trying to hype the product. We were skeptical as hell when this little box showed up on our doorstep. We took it out and plugged it in the company G35 right off the bat and noticed a difference. We've let over a dozen local customers test drive it on their own cars and they have felt a difference. From a driver's feel standpoint it is a product that works and that is how we want to market it, as a product that you can feel the difference in. If you don't feel the difference we give you your money back minus the shipping cost, since after all Fed Ex isn't working with us on this promotion.
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I have one and its not "snake oil" it does exactly what it says it does. It all depends on if you want to send the $$ to get the returns!
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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i was thinking about it but not for 300 bux. id rather have a flywheel for that much...
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Originally Posted by cracka350z
i was thinking about it but not for 300 bux. id rather have a flywheel for that much...
You can always try one, and if you're not happy get your money back and buy a flywheel. If you'd like to check it out send me a PM and I'll give you the special intro price. Just a thought.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Placebo:
A substance containing no medication and prescribed or given to reinforce a patient's expectation to get well.

From the company offical web site.
http://www.sprintboostersales.com/whyitworks.cfm
Sprint Booster makes your car's throttle respond faster to your foot. As a result, your gas pedal actually achieves a full throttle response 25% sooner than the stock configuration. Even if you have a 'sport' button, Sprint Booster will quicken the throttle response time. By making the throttle respond faster to your input, you will feel as though your car has more muscle than it really does!


• Sprint Booster does not increase Horsepower.

• Sprint Booster does not reduce your 0-60mph times.

• Sprint Booster DOES make your car 'FEEL' faster.

• Sprint Booster is not for everyone.


So, for 300 bucks you get to keep the same 0-60 and HP as you had before, you just get to think you are faster. You may as well be selling them a resister in a box that lights up an indicator that says "Warp-drive Activated"

The only way this could be better is if they were carbon fiber and you-know-who was selling them. That would be F'N epic.

If they were 50 bucks, I really don't think I would care if people went for this, after all...feeling fast is the next best thing to being fast I guess. But to have people pay 300 bucks for a bit of fluff that they will be getting from Hong Kong (a Greek company owns the rights to this made in China product) is nuts.
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Originally Posted by Sean
Placebo:
A substance containing no medication and prescribed or given to reinforce a patient's expectation to get well.

From the company offical web site.
http://www.sprintboostersales.com/whyitworks.cfm
Sprint Booster makes your car's throttle respond faster to your foot. As a result, your gas pedal actually achieves a full throttle response 25% sooner than the stock configuration. Even if you have a 'sport' button, Sprint Booster will quicken the throttle response time. By making the throttle respond faster to your input, you will feel as though your car has more muscle than it really does!


• Sprint Booster does not increase Horsepower.

• Sprint Booster does not reduce your 0-60mph times.

• Sprint Booster DOES make your car 'FEEL' faster.

• Sprint Booster is not for everyone.


So, for 300 bucks you get to keep the same 0-60 and HP as you had before, you just get to think you are faster. You may as well be selling them a resister in a box that lights up an indicator that says "Warp-drive Activated"

The only way this could be better is if they were carbon fiber and you-know-who was selling them. That would be F'N epic.

If they were 50 bucks, I really don't think I would care if people went for this, after all...feeling fast is the next best thing to being fast I guess. But to have people pay 300 bucks for a bit of fluff that they will be getting from Hong Kong (a Greek company owns the rights to this made in China product) is nuts.

I'm well aware of what the definition of placebo is. Covered that one freshman year in psychology 101. I see where you are coming from in one regard with this being a product that doesn't produce numerical results, however it does produce a result that can be felt and noticed by even the most novice driver. Say someone spends $200 on a set of test pipes that gain 7 hp, how many people can legitimately feel a 7 hp gain on their daily drive? How much of a difference in 0-60 times does a 7 hp gain warrant? Very minimal. So there is a product that costs a couple of hundred bucks, makes a very minimal improvement in power, and in most cases throws a check engine code. Yet test pipes are always at the top of the list of mods to do first. We're not hiding anything about this product and we're not trying to sell a dream with it, sit in a car that has one installed, drive a car that has one installed and you will feel the difference. Whether or not that difference is worth the money is ultimately up to the customer to decide.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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yea, way overpriced for what it actually is...

so for the HR motors will you need 2 of these?
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Doesn't Osiris offer the same feature by remapping the throttle response?
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Originally Posted by 06blueZ
yea, way overpriced for what it actually is...

so for the HR motors will you need 2 of these?
It plugs into the pedal not the throttle bodies. Only one is needed.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
Doesn't Osiris offer the same feature by remapping the throttle response?
It doesn't have the same response. We are an Osiris / Uprev dealer as well and have an Osiris tune on our G35. We've switched back and forth testing with each and with both. It's one of those things that is hard to explain but incredibly easy to feel.
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Originally Posted by bryan@Z1
It doesn't have the same response. We are an Osiris / Uprev dealer as well and have an Osiris tune on our G35. We've switched back and forth testing with each and with both. It's one of those things that is hard to explain but incredibly easy to feel.
have you downloaded the Osiris ETC update (couple moth old now)... I had some issues and after having the update flashed to the ECU throttle response got physically quicker (as noted from cipher real time while driving)... this Sprint effect may very well be achieved by Osiris - or not?
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Nothing like a trial period. If you are curious if it works and have the money you can't really lose.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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I got one AFTER testing out and obviously noticed a difference... If you have not tried it in your car then you shouldn't be posting IMO. they have stated what they claim it does and if thats enough for you to buy it then buy if not then move onto the next tread.... I recomend it is all.
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Originally Posted by Boorad
I got one AFTER testing out and obviously noticed a difference... If you have not tried it in your car then you shouldn't be posting IMO. they have stated what they claim it does and if thats enough for you to buy it then buy if not then move onto the next tread.... I recomend it is all.
I haven’t tried it, but the posts I've made don’t warrant a comment like that.

How in the hell would you (or the seller) expect new people to try something like this without dialog
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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I was trying to be rude sorry... i was more or less just supporting the mod. does it do wonders , NO will it improve you 1/4 Mile Time, NO but it does make everyday driving a little more fun.

I also dont blame you or anyone for that mater for not wanting to spend 300+ on it and deff. dont blame you for thinking it doesnt work as i would probs think the same thing....but I would try it before stating my thoughts on a product.

but yes after reading my post now i can see how it seems rude sorry again it was not intended to be
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