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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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lol I was just about to copy that page from the service manual thanks.

BTW, zcoupe, if you want to say that it doesn't specify what trim level it is for, that is because there is no need to.
Also, do you relize that you are talking to two different people?

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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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still does not state that the touring 6mt is not 3.3! the manual touring model in the 05 year is 3.3! if it wasnt the spec sheets would say it! you guys are both wrong
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z 6spd
lol I was just about to copy that page from the service manual thanks.

BTW, zcoupe, if you want to say that it doesn't specify what trim level it is for, that is because there is no need to.
Also, do you relize that you are talking to two different people?
this whole arguement is about the touring trim level! of course it matters! you will not find anything that says 6mt touring is 3.5 because its not! i showed my proof! where is yours?
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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this whole arguement is about the touring trim level! of course it matters! you will not find anything that says 6mt touring is 3.5 because its not! i showed my proof! where is yours?
No it does not matter what trim level it is because trim level has absolutley nothing to do with the rear axle ratio. If there was an exception to this the factory service manuals that nissan's mechanics use would certainly specify so. Also, have you ever owned a touring 6mt? Because I have, and furthermore I have personally assisted in the exchange of the 3.5 diff for a 3.3 on an f.i. touring 6mt. Now that doesn't prove anything to you (because evidently proving something to you is not possible), however it certainly proves to me that you are wrong.

You showed proof? What proof? The proof that I then further educated you on and pointed out the flaws in your interpretation of? I don't call that proof. I'm not going to do anymore research for you because we have already shown you plenty of places where it clearly states that any 350z with a 6mt has a rear axle ratio of 3.5. As stated by 350z spd, why don't you give the engineers over at nissan a buzz and maybe they can let you in on a thing or two. Don't you find anything strange about the fact that there are 5 people telling you that you are wrong (2 of which have been on this forum for a significantly longer period of time than you)?

How come you can't even keep your ideas straight? First you say the 04.5 touring is the one that comes with a 3.3 diff. Next, you say it is the 05. So, going by your first statement, the chart that you believe proves me wrong (which it doesn't), in fact proves you wrong. Why? because that is for the 05 model year not the 04.5. Just trying to point out your discontinuity in your ideas, you are still wrong either way.

One more thing, stop with the "owned" b.s. the only thing you own is relucatance to accept that you are in fact wrong.

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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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lol @ this thread. I've never witnessed so much arguing over a touring model lol. Good stuff guys .

By the way zcoupe, you are wrong on this one. It's not necessary to be hardheaded on something like this. Davidv's post is pretty clear with the image he provided.

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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z 6spd
No it does not matter what trim level it is because trim level has absolutley nothing to do with the rear axle ratio. If there was an exception to this the factory service manuals that nissan's mechanics use would certainly specify so. Also, have you ever owned a touring 6mt? Because I have, and furthermore I have personally assisted in the exchange of the 3.5 diff for a 3.3 on an f.i. touring 6mt. Now that doesn't prove anything to you (because evidently proving something to you is not possible), however it certainly proves to me that you are wrong.

You showed proof? What proof? The proof that I then further educated you on and pointed out the flaws in your interpretation of? I don't call that proof. I'm not going to do anymore research for you because we have already shown you plenty of places where it clearly states that any 350z with a 6mt has a rear axle ratio of 3.5. As stated by 350z spd, why don't you give the engineers over at nissan a buzz and maybe they can let you in on a thing or two. Don't you find anything strange about the fact that there are 5 people telling you that you are wrong (2 of which have been on this forum for a significantly longer period of time than you)?

How come you can't even keep your ideas straight? First you say the 04.5 touring is the one that comes with a 3.3 diff. Next, you say it is the 05. So, going by your first statement, the chart that you believe proves me wrong (which it doesn't), in fact proves you wrong. Why? because that is for the 05 model year not the 04.5. Just trying to point out your discontinuity in your ideas, you are still wrong either way.

One more thing, stop with the "owned" b.s. the only thing you own is relucatance to accept that you are in fact wrong.
lol ok now i know you know nothing! 03 through 05 are identical in drivetrain! my proof is the stat sheets all saying touring model is 3.3! u obviously cant admit when your wrong! you still havent been able to show me something that says that the 350z in 04 or 05 in the touring model is 3.5! you cant find anything because your wrong! every sheet you look at says 3.3! get over it! stop crying! your WRONG!!! im done with this thread! i know im right n the facts prove me right! im done trying to help you get your facts straight because you are too hard headed to relize your wrong! oh well! i love being right! peace out!
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zcoupe
lol ok now i know you know nothing! 03 through 05 are identical in drivetrain! my proof is the stat sheets all saying touring model is 3.3! u obviously cant admit when your wrong! you still havent been able to show me something that says that the 350z in 04 or 05 in the touring model is 3.5! you cant find anything because your wrong! every sheet you look at says 3.3! get over it! stop crying! your WRONG!!! im done with this thread! i know im right n the facts prove me right! im done trying to help you get your facts straight because you are too hard headed to relize your wrong! oh well! i love being right! peace out!
Actually, some of the 05 trim levels came with the rev-up, so the drivetrains are not the same, but that is besides the point because what I was trying to say obviously just went over your head.

BY YOUR LOGIC, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT THE TOURING MODELS ALL HAVE A 3.5 REGARDLESS OF TRANSMISSIONS, THEN THE ENTHUSIAST MODELS ALL HAVE A 3.3, EVEN THE 6MT?

If you say yes to that, you sir, clearly are clueless about this car.

I have owned 2 z33's ( including an 03 touring 6MT), I work on them almost daily, and I have swapped out the diffs. Beside the sheet that you still believe proves you right (once again it does not), where does anything I posted say anything about any 350z with a 6mt having a 3.3 diff? I posted a link to "that other 350z site", a brochure, davidv posted the factory service manual. What more do you need? I still cannot comprehend how you do not believe the factory service manual that nissan engineers have assisted in writing.

I think you are the one who needs to stop crying with your poor english skills and your exclamation points at the end of every sentence. LOL relax this is an internet car forum.

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 350z 6spd
Actually, some of the 05 trim levels came with the rev-up, so the drivetrains are not the same, but that is besides the point because what I was trying to say obviously just went over your head.

BY YOUR LOGIC, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT THE TOURING MODELS ALL HAVE A 3.5 REGARDLESS OF TRANSMISSIONS, THEN THE ENTHUSIAST MODELS ALL HAVE A 3.3, EVEN THE 6MT?

If you say yes to that, you sir, clearly are clueless about this car.

I have owned 2 z33's ( including an 03 touring 6MT), I work on them almost daily, and I have swapped out the diffs. Beside the sheet that you still believe proves you right (once again it does not), where does anything I posted say anything about any 350z with a 6mt having a 3.3 diff? I posted a link to "that other 350z site", a brochure, davidv posted the factory service manual. What more do you need? I still cannot comprehend how you do not believe the factory service manual that nissan engineers have assisted in writing.

I think you are the one who needs to stop crying with your poor english skills and your exclamation points at the end of every sentence. LOL relax this is an internet car forum.

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no i said the touring 6mt is a 3.3 because it is! noone has been able to post something that states that the touring comes with 3.5 because they cant! im right and you not being able to prove your point proves me right! bye bye have a nice day! and guess what your still
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Originally Posted by zcoupe
lol ok now i know you know nothing! 03 through 05 are identical in drivetrain! my proof is the stat sheets all saying touring model is 3.3! u obviously cant admit when your wrong! you still havent been able to show me something that says that the 350z in 04 or 05 in the touring model is 3.5! you cant find anything because your wrong! every sheet you look at says 3.3! get over it! stop crying! your WRONG!!! im done with this thread! i know im right n the facts prove me right! im done trying to help you get your facts straight because you are too hard headed to relize your wrong! oh well! i love being right! peace out!
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zcoupe
no i said the touring 6mt is a 3.3 because it is! noone has been able to post something that states that the touring comes with 3.5 because they cant! im right and you not being able to prove your point proves me right! bye bye have a nice day! and guess what your still
Just answer this,

By your logic, because it supposedly says that the touring models all have a 3.3 regardless of transmissions, then the enthusiast models all have a 3.5, even the 5AT?

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z 6spd
Just answer this,

By your logic, because it supposedly says that the touring models all have a 3.3 regardless of transmissions, then the enthusiast models all have a 3.5, even the 5AT?

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no read the stat sheets! the final drive is just the gearing in the rear end! the touring is the only one with the 3.3 as stated in the spec sheets! it has nothing to do with the tranny at all! the ratio in the rear end is 3.3! it doesnt matter if the car is auto or not or 5spd or 6spd the ratio in the rear is the ratio in the rear! all nissan did was put the same 3.3 ratio from the other automatic models into the rear of the 6mt touring model! its really not rocket science!
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You just proved my point. If I read the stat sheet the way you read it, then it clearly states that all of the enthusiast models have a 3.5 diff, even the automatics...they DO NOT.

Your response is the same everytime with your "im right you are wrong" mentality yet you have no clear factual evidence proving your point. I have clear factual evidence from multiple sources reinforcing the fact that every factory equipped 6mt 350z is also equipped with a rear axle gear ratio of 3.5.

Just to be nice, here is someone selling the differential from there 6mt touring. Guess what? It is a 3.5. OMFG no way.

https://my350z.com/forum/drivetrain/...riveshaft.html


O yea you know what you're talking about :

https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2008-n...questions.html
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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You just proved my point. If I read the stat sheet the way you read it, then it clearly states that all of the enthusiast models have a 3.5 diff, even the automatics...they DO NOT.

Your response is the same everytime with your "im right you are wrong" mentality yet you have no clear factual evidence proving your point. I have clear factual evidence from multiple sources reinforcing the fact that every factory equipped 6mt 350z is also equipped with a rear axle gear ratio of 3.5.

Just to be nice, here is someone selling the differential from there 6mt touring. Guess what? It is a 3.5. OMFG no way.

https://my350z.com/forum/drivetrain/...riveshaft.html


O yea you know what you're talking about :

https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2008-n...questions.html
touring model 6mt is 3.3! read the spec sheets! im done trying to make u a little smarter! i guess some people in this world like yourself there is no hope for and remain dumb
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Wow, you scream you're correct after being shown someone with a touring and a 3.5 diff, being proven wrong multiple times, and then you give a personal insult after being proved wrong for the final time...creative.

Obviously you cannot be reasoned with.

BTW I thought you were done responding yesterday? I guess irrationality cannot be contained.
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Originally Posted by 350z 6spd
Wow, you scream you're correct after being shown someone with a touring and a 3.5 diff, being proven wrong multiple times, and then you give a personal insult after being proved wrong for the final time...creative.

Obviously you cannot be reasoned with.

BTW I thought you were done responding yesterday? I guess irrationality cannot be contained.
your wrong get over it
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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your wrong get over it
Let's settle it once and for all.. I'll go take pictures of my stock Touring gears. I'll let you count the teeth on the ring and pinion and use whatever calculator you like to divide the two.
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OMFG thank you lol.
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please please please lets get some pics and start the counting. this thread is epic
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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LOL@ this thread.

Either this dude is just trying to be an ******* or this is seriously something wrong. It CLEARLY states on the spec sheet, that regardless of trim, all autos got the 3.3 and the manuals 3.5.

And also, the REAL reason why a touring would post a slower time is because...... IT IS HEAVIER.
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