Short throw shifter
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#5
I like the B&M.
Had a chance to compare the Nismo one which is smoother and doesnt rattle BUT the rubbe rbushing there has less lognevity than the B&M steel bushing .
Of course that steel bushing is the cause of the Rattle you hear in the BM over 4000 rpm.
But i got used to that and in any event when your not driving hard its not an isue and if you do the joy of short well defined shifts makes the noise issue pale
Had a chance to compare the Nismo one which is smoother and doesnt rattle BUT the rubbe rbushing there has less lognevity than the B&M steel bushing .
Of course that steel bushing is the cause of the Rattle you hear in the BM over 4000 rpm.
But i got used to that and in any event when your not driving hard its not an isue and if you do the joy of short well defined shifts makes the noise issue pale
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#10
I just recently installed the B&M shifter with the arc ti shift ****.. I did alot of research on the B&M shifter and alot of people hate it. I Bought it anyway to test for myself and I love it. Idk why people dont like, but they must not know how to install it right or something, cuz mine works perfectly fine.
#17
I'd be interested to know how many of you who say that it's a waste have ever used one?
I have the Stillen in my own car - it makes a noticeable and significant difference in the throw, and makes zero noise. It could have been an OEM part. It's not something we sell via mailorder (only to locals), but it's a very nice piece. The NISMO one is also an excellent piece. It will last longer than you are ever likely to keep the car. It also works very nicely, has zero noise, is adjustable, and again, noticeably reduces the throw. If either were junk, I wouldn't have them in our own cars, and I wouldn't bother selling them. There is a third version out there that finds its way onto many shelves and has various off brand type names. We were asked to carry this one as well, and offer it under a private label arrangement. Awesome profit margins (way more than the NISMO or Stillen offer us) and it looked nice, but it was nasty to drive (I tried it in my own car). I ended up sending it back to the manufacturer and told them we weren't interested in it. I could not get the shifter plate to align back properly at all. This unit is still sold all over the place, including ebay, etc. It's a paperweight (IMHO).
The B&M has a nice throw, but it is noisy, and it can be tough to align the plate back to where it needs to be. As a result, engaging 6th and reverse can be a bit more difficult. It's workable, but it's not my favorite, so I refrain from selling it unless the customer specifically wants that exact one (we don't bother listing it on our site). Since the Stillen and NISMO have none of these alignment or noise issues, we prefer those.
The stock Z shifter is very nice from the factory - among the best out there from an OEM car. But, there are a few improvements to be made and a well thought out short shifter is one of them. Downside is, the ones worth using are not cheap.
I have the Stillen in my own car - it makes a noticeable and significant difference in the throw, and makes zero noise. It could have been an OEM part. It's not something we sell via mailorder (only to locals), but it's a very nice piece. The NISMO one is also an excellent piece. It will last longer than you are ever likely to keep the car. It also works very nicely, has zero noise, is adjustable, and again, noticeably reduces the throw. If either were junk, I wouldn't have them in our own cars, and I wouldn't bother selling them. There is a third version out there that finds its way onto many shelves and has various off brand type names. We were asked to carry this one as well, and offer it under a private label arrangement. Awesome profit margins (way more than the NISMO or Stillen offer us) and it looked nice, but it was nasty to drive (I tried it in my own car). I ended up sending it back to the manufacturer and told them we weren't interested in it. I could not get the shifter plate to align back properly at all. This unit is still sold all over the place, including ebay, etc. It's a paperweight (IMHO).
The B&M has a nice throw, but it is noisy, and it can be tough to align the plate back to where it needs to be. As a result, engaging 6th and reverse can be a bit more difficult. It's workable, but it's not my favorite, so I refrain from selling it unless the customer specifically wants that exact one (we don't bother listing it on our site). Since the Stillen and NISMO have none of these alignment or noise issues, we prefer those.
The stock Z shifter is very nice from the factory - among the best out there from an OEM car. But, there are a few improvements to be made and a well thought out short shifter is one of them. Downside is, the ones worth using are not cheap.
Last edited by Z1 Performance; 12-11-2009 at 09:47 AM.
#18
I'd be interested to know how many of you who say that it's a waste have ever used one?
I have the Stillen in my own car - it makes a noticeable and significant difference in the throw, and makes zero noise.
The stock Z shifter is very nice from the factory - among the best out there from an OEM car. But, there are a few improvements to be made and a well thought out short shifter is one of them. Downside is, the ones worth using are not cheap.
I have the Stillen in my own car - it makes a noticeable and significant difference in the throw, and makes zero noise.
The stock Z shifter is very nice from the factory - among the best out there from an OEM car. But, there are a few improvements to be made and a well thought out short shifter is one of them. Downside is, the ones worth using are not cheap.
#19
I would agree 100% - the stock Z shifter is quite efficient and the throws are not long at all for a factory car. However, there is certainly room for it to be even shorter. All about personal preference. I've been using the one in my car now for about 2.5 years, and I would not switch back at all. Combined with the transmission mount I recently added, there is much more precision and accuracy in the mechanism, and it makes for quicker shifts both up and down.