which is better for drift
I'm looking between the vortech supercharger and a gtm tt stage two setup.
im more concerned with reliability and longevity than just hp numbers.
i know the history with turbos and drifting but i haven't heard much about a vortech sc and drifting i know its reputation for reliability and decent power but I'm concerned if it can handle the abuse from drift
im more concerned with reliability and longevity than just hp numbers.
i know the history with turbos and drifting but i haven't heard much about a vortech sc and drifting i know its reputation for reliability and decent power but I'm concerned if it can handle the abuse from drift
I would go with hks super charger sense alot of people have liked that but also you could get the vortech one and upgrade it the internals(forgot what it called but someone just posted recently about doing it/numbers) and push close to 400hp. Honestly you just need something that is going to give you tq from 3k and up.
Honestly if anything i would build the upper part of the motor sense you will be spending alot of time in the upper rpm area.
Honestly if anything i would build the upper part of the motor sense you will be spending alot of time in the upper rpm area.
Last edited by hellsoldiers08; Jun 20, 2010 at 02:10 PM.
well the cars a mix mostly between grip and drift but i didnt want huge number so i could keep it reliable the reason why i ask about drift is because i want to learn the cars limits so i can become a better grip driver
The stage 1 setup would be better as far as drifting due to the power band. A supercharger would be more predictable with such a linear power band that i would think it might be a better choice. The supercharger kit might also be lighter and create less heat. When drifting alot comes to question moreso then just power.
the one thing i like about the sc is that there reliable and have a linear power curve
although idk if the vortech and its belt are able to stand up to stress that drifting puts on the engine
although idk if the vortech and its belt are able to stand up to stress that drifting puts on the engine
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what s/c for a Z has a linear power curve exactly? none - they either give you a fat midrange, and fall off up top, or they (Vortech) give you up top and barely change the rest of the power curve by a substantial amount
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...em.php?gik=424
The Oct, 2009 issue of DSPORT Magazine features a Honda S2000 powered by a Vortech supercharger system for better performance on the race track.
Excerpt from the Article
"Without boost, generating the extra power from the F20C engine is extremely difficult. The only way to make a significant amount of power from the highly-tuned engine is through forced-induction. After much research, we selected the Vortech Supercharger system. The Vortech system produces a very linear powerband similar to a normally-aspirated engine. This linear powerband allows the S2000 to still behave like a normally-aspirated vehicle (with the sensation of a larger, more powerful engine). This characteristic can prove to be easier to drive than a turbocharger system that generates substantial boost at lower RPMs."
The Oct, 2009 issue of DSPORT Magazine features a Honda S2000 powered by a Vortech supercharger system for better performance on the race track.
Excerpt from the Article
"Without boost, generating the extra power from the F20C engine is extremely difficult. The only way to make a significant amount of power from the highly-tuned engine is through forced-induction. After much research, we selected the Vortech Supercharger system. The Vortech system produces a very linear powerband similar to a normally-aspirated engine. This linear powerband allows the S2000 to still behave like a normally-aspirated vehicle (with the sensation of a larger, more powerful engine). This characteristic can prove to be easier to drive than a turbocharger system that generates substantial boost at lower RPMs."
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...ORTECH+SYSTEMS
Durability/Driveability
The centrifugal supercharger system characteristics of progressive and linear power addition (over the naturally aspirated engine) allows for peak power targets to be achieved without overwhelming drivetrain components such as transmissions, driveshafts, clutches and rear axle assemblies. This performance curve, directly proportional to engine rpm, allows a centrifugal system to exceed the peak power potential of other boosting options with excellent driveability, performance and less impact on fuel economy. And, coupled with our conservative approach to tuning, we have seen many of our owners exceed 100,000 miles of trouble free motoring.
Durability/Driveability
The centrifugal supercharger system characteristics of progressive and linear power addition (over the naturally aspirated engine) allows for peak power targets to be achieved without overwhelming drivetrain components such as transmissions, driveshafts, clutches and rear axle assemblies. This performance curve, directly proportional to engine rpm, allows a centrifugal system to exceed the peak power potential of other boosting options with excellent driveability, performance and less impact on fuel economy. And, coupled with our conservative approach to tuning, we have seen many of our owners exceed 100,000 miles of trouble free motoring.
1. we don't have F20C's in our cars - and they are peaky engines in the first place
2. Look at a vortech dyno - the concentration of gains on a VQ35 are in the upper half of the rpm scale. Stillen does a nice job of improving low to mid range power, HKS is more of a mid range setup, and the Vortech is more of a top end setup by comparison.
2. Look at a vortech dyno - the concentration of gains on a VQ35 are in the upper half of the rpm scale. Stillen does a nice job of improving low to mid range power, HKS is more of a mid range setup, and the Vortech is more of a top end setup by comparison.
I used the above "F20C" as a comparison when specifically speaking of the "Vortech" system. They seem to use the word "linear" often.
I can see how the Vortech can be seen as not being Linear vs the HKS tho..
I can see how the Vortech can be seen as not being Linear vs the HKS tho..
Last edited by Highway Riding; Jun 21, 2010 at 08:41 AM.
I initially thought or i should say i assumed "Linear" to be just like your like ur dyno posted. A clean straight line heading up. From what Z1 is posting it sounds like others may consider Linear being a flat consistent power line
Power Enterprise. You could have a decent drift car with just about any kit out there.
Here is a Vortech drift 350z:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRWviMplCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiPYCsznClA
http://www.streetfire.net/video/wide...est_559165.htm
Here is a Vortech drift 350z:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRWviMplCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiPYCsznClA
http://www.streetfire.net/video/wide...est_559165.htm
since you're concerned with reliability and longevity i would suggest going the supercharged route as well! Or if you got the dough, just drop a strong reliable LS motor like all the pro drivers nowadays
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