3.7 or 3.9 Final Drive
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I am about to finalize my next mod! I have a 2008 Nismo, and so far I have X02 Dual Exhaust w/ x pipe, Labree Resonated Test Pipes, Stillen gen 3 intakes and an Osiris tune. I want to upgrade my final drive! 4.08 seems a bit too far stretched for me for the routine driver and such. I don't want to shift THAT much. I was told the 3.7 final drive from the 370z will fit no problem. Also, I am very interested in the 3.9, but the price is very high, but if the increased benefit over the 3.7 is worth it, I will just go that route. What are your opinions? Will I notice a difference with the 3.7? Or should I go with the 3.9? I found a place that will install the gears for $480, providing I provide the gears and the install kit. Thanks!
I am about to finalize my next mod! I have a 2008 Nismo, and so far I have X02 Dual Exhaust w/ x pipe, Labree Resonated Test Pipes, Stillen gen 3 intakes and an Osiris tune. I want to upgrade my final drive! 4.08 seems a bit too far stretched for me for the routine driver and such. I don't want to shift THAT much. I was told the 3.7 final drive from the 370z will fit no problem. Also, I am very interested in the 3.9, but the price is very high, but if the increased benefit over the 3.7 is worth it, I will just go that route. What are your opinions? Will I notice a difference with the 3.7? Or should I go with the 3.9? I found a place that will install the gears for $480, providing I provide the gears and the install kit. Thanks!
You can workout the new speeds and shift points using a calculator here: http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
I would suggest the 4.08 as they are so close to the 3.9 and usually less expensive. I have this on my Z, fantastic mod, instant torque multiplier. This mod is something that is VERY noticeable in the butt gauge.
Send a pm to Adam at Z1 Performance, he can set you up, very knowledgeable.
Send a pm to Adam at Z1 Performance, he can set you up, very knowledgeable.
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I would suggest the 4.08 as they are so close to the 3.9 and usually less expensive. I have this on my Z, fantastic mod, instant torque multiplier. This mod is something that is VERY noticeable in the butt gauge.
Send a pm to Adam at Z1 Performance, he can set you up, very knowledgeable.
Send a pm to Adam at Z1 Performance, he can set you up, very knowledgeable.
Last edited by nismomike; Nov 15, 2010 at 07:22 PM.
You would recommend this? Is the difference such a way that it can be annoying? Would this be a "lethal" setup for the street, ie. taking off at lights, and possibly a 20 mph pull to 100 mph if i needed to upset some other cars? haha. Also, with a 7600 rpm like my car is set to, what could I expect the MPH in first gear to top out at? 35 mph? or higher? With the governor removed, am I able to go past 160 mph with the 4.08? I agree the 4.08 is more feasible regarding price...
The answers to your other questions can be answered by you doing a little leg work of your own. A gear ratio calculator like the one I believe DavidV posted above (admittedly I did not click on the link he posted) is all that you should need.
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The term "annoying" is purely subjective. Some people consider driving a car with only two seats as being annoying.
The answers to your other questions can be answered by you doing a little leg work of your own. A gear ratio calculator like the one I believe DavidV posted above (admittedly I did not click on the link he posted) is all that you should need.
The answers to your other questions can be answered by you doing a little leg work of your own. A gear ratio calculator like the one I believe DavidV posted above (admittedly I did not click on the link he posted) is all that you should need.
I think I am just gonna go with the 3.9 Upon reading many outside sources from other forums, its a solid way to go.
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3.9 works fine, but it is much more expensive than the 4.08 and not typically stocked in the US anymore. 4.08 is a small change (4%), in stock, and far less costly...and it compliments the HR perfectly
3.9 works fine, but it is much more expensive than the 4.08 and not typically stocked in the US anymore. 4.08 is a small change (4%), in stock, and far less costly...and it compliments the HR perfectly
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3.9 works fine, but it is much more expensive than the 4.08 and not typically stocked in the US anymore. 4.08 is a small change (4%), in stock, and far less costly...and it compliments the HR perfectly
3.9 works fine, but it is much more expensive than the 4.08 and not typically stocked in the US anymore. 4.08 is a small change (4%), in stock, and far less costly...and it compliments the HR perfectly
LOL just go with the 4.083. I have just built another differential with it for my car and I am in love all over again. Just need some wider rubber to hold her to the ground. =X maybe some better tires.
if you usually do around 80-85mph on the highway you wont be doing that anymore with the 4.08 and thats where it becomes a tad bit annoying if you are making a 30 min trip to work or something on the hwy. really depends on your driving i guess but this mod is great makes driving the car a bit more fun cause ur sliding when u stomp on it in second. you kind of notice that you are shifting more often (sooner). but all around definetly go with the 4.08 or bare minimum 3.9. i mean if your going to make a difference u might as well feel it and get the 4.08. i dunno what else i can say here if you have questions let me know ive had the 4.08 for a few months now.
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Let me first say.... This is by far the BEST mod i have done to my NA car...
You turbo guys will understand ( remember the chills that went up your back when you first drove your FI car?? ) Thats me
First, 2nd and third gears are amazing. The car pulls sooo much harder now. I cant wait to get it to the track rental next friday. I have my ECU reflashed to the 7200 Rpm Redline.
Here is a break down of the STOCK gear ratio's
1st Gear Ratio: 3.794:1
2nd Gear Ratio: 2.324:1
3rd Gear Ratio: 1.624:1
4th Gear Ratio: 1.271:1
5th Gear Ratio: 1.000:1
6th Gear Ratio: 0.794:1
-Reverse Ratio: 3.446:1
This is calculated using 255/45/17 Tires
http://www.f-body.org/gears/
STOCK 3.357 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 3.357 ---HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline --------7200 Rpm Redline----------7500 Rpm Redline
First------40mph ------First-----44mph-----------First-----46mph
Second ----66mph ------Second----71mph-----------Second----74mph
Third------94mph-------Third----102mph-----------Third----107mph
Forth-----120mph-------Forth----131mph-----------Forth----136mph
Fith------152mph-------Fith-----166mph-----------Fith-----173mph
Sixth-----192mph-------Sixth----209mph-----------Sixth----218mph
STOCK 3.538 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 3.538 ---HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline -------7200 Rpm Redline-----------7500 Rpm Redline
First -----38mph ------First-----42mph-----------First-----43mph
Second ----62mph-------Second----68mph-----------Second----71mph
Third -----89mph-------Third ----97mph-----------Third----101mph
Forth ----114mph-------Forth----124mph-----------Forth----129mph
Fith -----144mph-------Fith-----158mph-----------Fith-----164mph
Sixth ----182mph-------Sixth----199mph-----------Sixth----207mph
No Reflash 3.7 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 3.7 ----HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline ---------7200 Rpm Redline---------7500 Rpm Redline
First -----36mph-------First ----40mph-----------First-----41mph
Second ----59mph-------Second----65mph-----------Second----68mph
Third -----85mph-------Third ----93mph-----------Third-----97mph
Forth ----109mph-------Forth----119mph-----------Forth----124mph
Fith------138mph-------Fith-----151mph-----------Fith-----157mph
Sixth-----174mph-------Sixth----190mph-----------Sixth----198mph
No Reflash 3.9 Gear -- ECU REFLAH 3.9-----HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline ----------7200 Rpm Redline-------7500 Rpm Redline
First ------35mph-------First ---38mph-----------First-----39mph
Second -----56mph-------Second---62mph-----------Second----64mph
Third ------81mph-------Third----88mph-----------Third-----92mph
Forth------103mph-------Forth---113mph-----------Forth----117mph
Fith-------131mph-------Fith----143mph-----------Fith-----149mph
Sixth------165mph-------Sixth---180mph-----------Sixth----188mph
No Reflash 4.083 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 4.083--HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline ------------7200 Rpm Redline---------7500 Rpm Redline
First ------33mph--------First ---36mph----------First-----38mph
Second -----54mph--------Second---59mph----------Second----61mph
Third ------77mph--------Third ---84mph----------Third-----88mph
Forth ------99mph--------Forth---107mph----------Forth----112mph
Fith ------125mph--------Fith----137mph----------Fith-----142mph
Sixth -----158mph--------Sixth---172mph----------Sixth----179mph
Here are the track results
Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ZTsAgCabw
Link to thread
https://my350z.com/forum/drag/307682-new-best-13-064-105-5-all-motor.html
Before and after the 4.083 gears
You turbo guys will understand ( remember the chills that went up your back when you first drove your FI car?? ) Thats me
First, 2nd and third gears are amazing. The car pulls sooo much harder now. I cant wait to get it to the track rental next friday. I have my ECU reflashed to the 7200 Rpm Redline.
Here is a break down of the STOCK gear ratio's
1st Gear Ratio: 3.794:1
2nd Gear Ratio: 2.324:1
3rd Gear Ratio: 1.624:1
4th Gear Ratio: 1.271:1
5th Gear Ratio: 1.000:1
6th Gear Ratio: 0.794:1
-Reverse Ratio: 3.446:1
This is calculated using 255/45/17 Tires
http://www.f-body.org/gears/
STOCK 3.357 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 3.357 ---HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline --------7200 Rpm Redline----------7500 Rpm Redline
First------40mph ------First-----44mph-----------First-----46mph
Second ----66mph ------Second----71mph-----------Second----74mph
Third------94mph-------Third----102mph-----------Third----107mph
Forth-----120mph-------Forth----131mph-----------Forth----136mph
Fith------152mph-------Fith-----166mph-----------Fith-----173mph
Sixth-----192mph-------Sixth----209mph-----------Sixth----218mph
STOCK 3.538 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 3.538 ---HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline -------7200 Rpm Redline-----------7500 Rpm Redline
First -----38mph ------First-----42mph-----------First-----43mph
Second ----62mph-------Second----68mph-----------Second----71mph
Third -----89mph-------Third ----97mph-----------Third----101mph
Forth ----114mph-------Forth----124mph-----------Forth----129mph
Fith -----144mph-------Fith-----158mph-----------Fith-----164mph
Sixth ----182mph-------Sixth----199mph-----------Sixth----207mph
No Reflash 3.7 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 3.7 ----HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline ---------7200 Rpm Redline---------7500 Rpm Redline
First -----36mph-------First ----40mph-----------First-----41mph
Second ----59mph-------Second----65mph-----------Second----68mph
Third -----85mph-------Third ----93mph-----------Third-----97mph
Forth ----109mph-------Forth----119mph-----------Forth----124mph
Fith------138mph-------Fith-----151mph-----------Fith-----157mph
Sixth-----174mph-------Sixth----190mph-----------Sixth----198mph
No Reflash 3.9 Gear -- ECU REFLAH 3.9-----HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline ----------7200 Rpm Redline-------7500 Rpm Redline
First ------35mph-------First ---38mph-----------First-----39mph
Second -----56mph-------Second---62mph-----------Second----64mph
Third ------81mph-------Third----88mph-----------Third-----92mph
Forth------103mph-------Forth---113mph-----------Forth----117mph
Fith-------131mph-------Fith----143mph-----------Fith-----149mph
Sixth------165mph-------Sixth---180mph-----------Sixth----188mph
No Reflash 4.083 Gear-- ECU REFLASH 4.083--HR Engine
6600 Rpm Redline ------------7200 Rpm Redline---------7500 Rpm Redline
First ------33mph--------First ---36mph----------First-----38mph
Second -----54mph--------Second---59mph----------Second----61mph
Third ------77mph--------Third ---84mph----------Third-----88mph
Forth ------99mph--------Forth---107mph----------Forth----112mph
Fith ------125mph--------Fith----137mph----------Fith-----142mph
Sixth -----158mph--------Sixth---172mph----------Sixth----179mph
Here are the track results
Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ZTsAgCabw
Link to thread
https://my350z.com/forum/drag/307682-new-best-13-064-105-5-all-motor.html
Before and after the 4.083 gears
I would kill myself going on a drive longer then an hr and have to do less then 120kmh cause at 130 which is about 85mph the car revs at 3500 cruising at that rpm i dunno im not an expert but doesnt feel safe who knows. Depends how u drive i guess
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