LBSOHK

B&M or Rogue , whats the difference and best place to buy it ?
thx

KJY9

I've had both and all I can say personally is I like the B & M much better. Shorter throw, crisper and cleaner shifts (my
rogue went in the garbage the 3rd time it broke in half, as I wasn't about to try and glue it together once again)
Do a search on here and I'm sure you'll find an address on where to buy, or someone will see this thread and pipe up.
I bought mine on a "group buy"

silverstoneTT

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my vote goes for the rogues which now are much better. the first sets were the ones that got damaged.

mine has been great, installs with no adjustments, may cost a little more but i personally like the idea of being able to go to the company where the company that sells them is located and pick it up. that of course being an option you have.

So Rogue it is!

350zluvr

Not to hijack the thread, but I was considering on switching out to a short-shifter kit and was just wondering if the stock shifter have to be replaced or is there a way that you guys installed these kits and where able not to damage the shifter to where you could use it again after install? Thanx

KJY9

I've still got my stock shifter in a box..undamaged.

n1cK!

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i have the rogue and have never had any problems with it. hey KJY9, your rogue broke? sorry to hear that, i jus' didn't think it could happen. you might want to check out this thread from g35drivers.com it's a real horror story about the B&M! hope that helps.

n1cK!

LBSOHK

Im leaning more toward Rogue now...
KJY9 when did you have the problems with Rogue ? was just after they released the ss ?

I just read this about B&M ss , can anyone confirm that ?

WARNING: this is for everyone looking at a B&M shifter, there is a major design flaw in the shifter. The stock shifter retains the **** but bottoming the inner side of the shifter down onto the bushing and the shifter shaft to lock it on. The B&M has no stop. Hopefully your shifter will just happen to stop before crushing the boot to lock. Mine would turn loosely until compressing against the boot. On the ender side of the shifter, there is some casting flash. As you tighten the shifter, it cuts the boot. If you are daring enough to get one of these shifter, use some sand paper or a dremel to clean off any burs from the ****.

KJY9

My guess is that he didn't use the stock stop on the top end of the shifter. That's all I can think of?!?
No problems with mine

LBSOHK

few more questions...

is Rogue and B&M same design ? same material ? same lenght ?

20% reduction of throws with Rogue
anyone has a number on B&M ?


B&M on ebay

and who is the vendor here that sells them ? thx

35ounces

iTrader: (5)

Avalon Racing sells a short shifter also but I do not know which it is.

n1cK!

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the rogue and b&m are similar in design, but quite different as well. you could look it up the B&M on their website. for all the info on the rogue, check this out. you could get the rogue from rogue engineering themselves.

n1cK!

KJY9

Rogue claims 20% reduction in throw and B&M claims 30 or 33% reduction in throw.

KJY9

Yeah, I got one when they first came out. The top half separated right from the bottom half. They've since fixed the problem (with a bolt through it so I've been told), but it left a sour taste in my mouth with Rogue. I'll never buy anything that's made by them or from 350Evo again

G3po

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I'm suprised that BJ @ 350EVO or Rouge didn't offer to exchange the earlier designed shifter with the new bolted shaft version free of charge?. Personally I have a Rougue shifter and 350EVO sways and can't complain with the performace of the parts or the service offered by 350EVO.

liljerk

here we go again, just ignore KJY9, he's a dumba$$






let the flaming begin!

LBSOHK

wow that was harsh , did I miss something ?

liljerk

Do yourself a favor and don't click this link...

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=62618

ZIABLO

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with ur rogue shifters, does anyone find it more difficult to get into 2nd sometimes? this has been a problem for me ever since it was installed so i dotn think it's my tranny.

going at high speeds from 1st to 2nd is somewhat difficult, at slow speeds it is easy. so easy that three times when i've tried to go from 1st to neutral at a stop light, it went so effortlessly into 2nd that i didn't notice and stalled :-P

G3po

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If you spend match perfectly , it should just slip right into 2nd.
With the heavy OEM flywheel, you really need to wait a tad to let the RPMs drop. But sure it's a little more effort than the OEM shifter, It's to be expected, since in order to shorten the shifter throw , you must loose a little bit of mechanical leverage.

jmark

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They did.....