Notices
Engine & Drivetrain VQ Power and Delivery

Crawford "Tune-up"

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 09:05 AM
  #261  
350tre's Avatar
350tre
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: philly
Default

Originally Posted by Acree
hey jreiter,







learn to condense man. seriously.


anyways, back on topic, doug, any new info?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 10:58 AM
  #262  
ReavTek's Avatar
ReavTek
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 878
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

Ok... One second im here the next second the thread orgasms into 14 pages. What exactly is included in this "Crawford Tune-Up"? Are they reworking the lower plenum at all? Same Upper plenum design? Is this aimed for street use?

Thanks Guys.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:03 PM
  #263  
axxizzer's Avatar
axxizzer
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,082
Likes: 0
From: you'd Like to know
Default

Looks like: Upper plenum, Headers, cats, Cams, Head with some kind of work, and a TS reflash



Why didnt Doug or whoever want a pulley? They make power 100% of the time!
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:06 PM
  #264  
Z BOY's Avatar
Z BOY
Registered User
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,264
Likes: 1
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by axxizzer
Looks like: Upper plenum, Headers, cats, Cams, Head with some kind of work, and a TS reflash
plus other stuff ts is "not allowed to talk about".
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:22 PM
  #265  
VandyZ's Avatar
VandyZ
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,702
Likes: 1
From: Nashville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by axxizzer
Why didnt Doug or whoever want a pulley? They make power 100% of the time!
Short answer:

The engine is internally balanced, however the stock crank pulley is harmonically dampened while the aftermarket is not. No one wants to ruin an engine or shatter an oil pump due to vibration. This possible issue is even more significant to us, especially when we routinely run our cars up to 7200 rpm while making high N/A power.

On the whole it wont affect most people, but having dealt with these issues on the track in real race cars, Doug says it is not worth it to him. That's good enough reason for me. I have only heard of one possible issue on the 350Z with this, and it is not even for certain the pulley caused the failure. Better safe than sorry, IMO.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:17 PM
  #266  
skyl1ne6mt's Avatar
skyl1ne6mt
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: MI
Default

VandyZ, how many horsepower does your Z have?
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:00 PM
  #267  
Brandon@Forged's Avatar
Brandon@Forged
Sponsor
Forged Internals.com
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,566
Likes: 1
From: Valdosta, GA
Default

Bump.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 04:06 AM
  #268  
VandyZ's Avatar
VandyZ
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,702
Likes: 1
From: Nashville, TN
Default

Reworked intake system with Custom larger TB to mate to larger intake on new cast plenums in test now.

2005 lower plenum in test.

3rd set of custom grind cams in design.

I dont think I will go into it more than that, untill we know what works and what does not.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 04:27 AM
  #269  
neffster's Avatar
neffster
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
From: Oviedo, FL
Default

Vandy,

Are you running in a vacuum? Straight from your sig... "GET OWNED @ 0 PSI"
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:53 AM
  #270  
Road Warrior's Avatar
Road Warrior
Registered User
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,669
Likes: 0
From: cali
Default

Originally Posted by VandyZ
Reworked intake system with Custom larger TB to mate to larger intake on new cast plenums in test now.

2005 lower plenum in test.

3rd set of custom grind cams in design.

I dont think I will go into it more than that, untill we know what works and what does not.
thanks for the info.....good luck.....can't wait to see what you guys come up with
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:16 AM
  #271  
Darthvol's Avatar
Darthvol
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN area
Default

Originally Posted by neffster
Vandy,

Are you running in a vacuum? Straight from your sig... "GET OWNED @ 0 PSI"
I think that just means he's a satisfied Z owner, even w/o being blown.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:24 PM
  #272  
phile's Avatar
phile
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,703
Likes: 0
From: central ny
Default

when are we gonna hear some news? :P
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2005 | 05:47 AM
  #273  
Darthvol's Avatar
Darthvol
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN area
Default

phile, if you just read the last several pages of the thread, and indeed even the last ten posts, then you know what is going on. Crawford is going to produce a premium product on a small R&D budget, and they simply do not have the financial resources of a Stillen. OTOH, they will not bring a product or a package to market if they do not know that it absolutely will perform as advertised.

As posted earlier, the progress should pick up again after the cast plenum orders start to decrease. As for "right now," all the Crawford guys are heavily involved in hosting Z ATTACK this weekend in Nashville.

I love modding, and I know it can become addictive, but one of the worst things about it is that it promotes a culture of "immediate gratification," where businesses are encouraged to rush to market with products that won't work, or break (e.g, earliest Stillen products for the 350, and Kinetix ["Great news! Our new version of the plenum actually works and won't crack--the 4th time's the charm!!]).
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2005 | 06:53 AM
  #274  
Road Warrior's Avatar
Road Warrior
Registered User
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,669
Likes: 0
From: cali
Default

i couldn't agree more darthvol....sometimes being impatient will get the better of you and you end up buying something else instead of waiting for these premium products to come out.

i have been modding cars now for the past 5 years and i have learned that good products (not all) take a long time to develop. look at all the different versions of plenums out there even with crawford....the difference being that crawford products are not released until they are certain it's of good quality and thoroughly tested. i would be willing to bet that some people are still running version 1 without any problems.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2005 | 07:48 AM
  #275  
phile's Avatar
phile
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,703
Likes: 0
From: central ny
Default

Originally Posted by Darthvol
phile, if you just read the last several pages of the thread, and indeed even the last ten posts, then you know what is going on. Crawford is going to produce a premium product on a small R&D budget, and they simply do not have the financial resources of a Stillen. OTOH, they will not bring a product or a package to market if they do not know that it absolutely will perform as advertised.

As posted earlier, the progress should pick up again after the cast plenum orders start to decrease. As for "right now," all the Crawford guys are heavily involved in hosting Z ATTACK this weekend in Nashville.

I love modding, and I know it can become addictive, but one of the worst things about it is that it promotes a culture of "immediate gratification," where businesses are encouraged to rush to market with products that won't work, or break (e.g, earliest Stillen products for the 350, and Kinetix ["Great news! Our new version of the plenum actually works and won't crack--the 4th time's the charm!!]).
But I want it now!

Sorry, I had to!

I had read this thread a couple weeks ago, and when I scanned the rest I couldn't find much. So I figured i'd give it a bump. My bad. From what I've read it seems like FI is bad for the track. Heat issues, reliability, etc. Since I
am not a drag racer, and NA mods keep the hp/tq curve the same, it seems this would be the best avenue. Problem is, NA mods are ridiculously expensive. I've heard guys who have spent 10K and received relatively little in return for their investment. Either way though, turning the car into what I want to is going to cost around 10K. This sucks.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2005 | 09:56 AM
  #276  
350Zenophile's Avatar
350Zenophile
New Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,350
Likes: 4
From: USA
Default

Unsubscribing

-Tired of email alerts filled with:
"Any news yet?!"
Reply
Old May 4, 2005 | 06:38 PM
  #277  
Z BOY's Avatar
Z BOY
Registered User
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,264
Likes: 1
From: CA
Default

any progress?
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 01:24 PM
  #278  
Spoe's Avatar
Spoe
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: Lexington, KY
Default

Anything new on this front?
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 10:20 PM
  #279  
Demonteverde's Avatar
Demonteverde
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

Don't quote me on this...

But..

Last I heard from someone who attended the Z dayz tail of the dragon cruise was that Doug's car was there running some prototype cams and it was making around 292 horsepower (not sure if thats at the crank or to the wheels) and reportedly sounded like a V8.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:51 AM
  #280  
pulpz2's Avatar
pulpz2
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 769
Likes: 0
From: Dayton OH
Default

Originally Posted by Demonteverde
Don't quote me on this...

But..

Last I heard from someone who attended the Z dayz tail of the dragon cruise was that Doug's car was there running some prototype cams and it was making around 292 horsepower (not sure if thats at the crank or to the wheels) and reportedly sounded like a V8.
I'd hope that's at the wheels. The Pop Charger gets 292 at the crank. Lol. And, yes, it did sound mean at Z dayz.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:49 AM.