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Old 05-11-2005, 07:43 AM
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I have a 04 PPW roadster and my car has been in the shop for about 3 and half weeks now. Im having them put the INGS half kit on and all the body work is done. the reason why its taking them so long is because their having problems matching the paint. Has anyone else come across this problem? Does anyone have any ideas on how to match this color? well it should be done this weekend..
Old 05-11-2005, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cruz617
I have a 04 PPW roadster and my car has been in the shop for about 3 and half weeks now. Im having them put the INGS half kit on and all the body work is done. the reason why its taking them so long is because their having problems matching the paint. Has anyone else come across this problem? Does anyone have any ideas on how to match this color? well it should be done this weekend..
White is one of the hardest colors to match (black is usually the easiest). On top of that, the Z has a lot of pearl in the paint, so that just adds to it. Paint matching is difficult as you need to make sure the color and pearl are right, then you need to make sure the clear doesn't 'alter' the color. On top of that, you have the 'flop' (viewing angle) is right.
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ask them to use PPG paint. Otherwise they will not match regarless of how they do.
Old 05-11-2005, 11:08 AM
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I did dupont on my PPW kit and it turned out fine.
Old 05-11-2005, 11:34 AM
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PPW is the biggest pain in the @ss!!!!!!. I had my Greddy front lip painted 3 times, still not as good as It should be.

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Old 05-11-2005, 04:39 PM
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My PPW Z is in the bodyshop right now on its second attempt at getting the color right. They tried to give me the car and it was horrible. Very little if no pearl at all. I'll have to call them about the PPG paint.
Old 05-11-2005, 04:45 PM
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I thought they had to use Dupont? Dose anyone have any confirming remarks? Especially Zivman, and Bubble. With daytona blue the color on my wing looks perfect, however at some angles *b/c I'm anol* it looks off.

Can you guys tell me what your 'secrets' to paint match are? Hit me up on pm if you could about which companies to use for the base/clear, etc.

ravi
Old 05-12-2005, 04:09 PM
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My PPW took the shop nearly 2 months to get right. It's one of the hardest colors to match. They had to nearly paint the whole front end to get things right.
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Damnit. I hope I never get in an accident.
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as said: PPG will give you 100% match regarless of color. I don't know about Dupont but i had mine done in PPG and it come out perfectly.
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How much price diff do the ppg paint make
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Pearl white is most difficult to match.
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What is PPG paint?
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I had a few cans of ppw white and pearl mixed up for my strut bar and speaker box and it looks great but I don't have any pieces that are right next to original paint so who knows how close it is.

One thing I did notice while painting it. The color looks like it has a blue tint to it until you lay on the pearl, then it changes to off white. Very strange.

This is the one reason I have not bought a spoiler for my car, I just can't deal with sending things back over and over again or having it not right.

Chris
Old 07-23-2005, 03:10 AM
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I had my roof repainted after the shop light spool fell on it. (erg!)

The guy said that it's really three coats, white, silver, then clear.

Mine is a little off but it's hard to notice because it's on a different angle than the other panels.

It could use a little more silver.
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Well, Im about to get me a kit, and jus saw a that someone scratched up my car.. So i really wanna get this painted right. Does anyone know a reputable shop here in Orlando, Florida where i can get it painted and still save some money. Im really on a budget here.
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Originally Posted by Bubble
as said: PPG will give you 100% match regarless of color.

This is NOT true. Any paint can give 100% match, any paint can be off. Mixing colors is not just a factor of the right brand. There are a lot of variables that come into play; the brand of paint is only one of them.

There is skill involved in getting the color to match. You don't just throw in the paint code, have the machine mix the paint and go on your way. You need to spray test panels, compare the flop, then when you get the color right, you need to make sure the clear doesn't impact the color in anyway...like lighten it , or darken it. You are mixing a lot of things together when matching paint: base, color, pearl, sometimes flake, and then you are clearing it after everything is done. All the while you need to make sure that the color looks the same on FRP (for bodykits), as it does on PP (oem bumper and side skirt material), as it does on sheet metal and aluminum.


All that said, you may get lucky and your shop may only have to throw in the paint code and the machine may spit out the exact color. this isn't always the case. Just take a look at the car stock, not all the panels match 100% from the factory, so you know it isn't just a wham bam easy paint mix and spray.
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