Canadian Model Annoyance
I'm interested in getting my hands on a 350Z, and live in Canada. I think our model layout is dumb.... If you want one feature, you're going to have to go with one model - but sacrifice things that you'd like in another model. We have the Performance, Touring and Track.. I need a 6SP Transmission, so that automatically eliminates Touring.
Luxury items are an important feature to me, such as heated leather, power adjustable seats, higher end audio features, etc. But they aren't in the Track Model - so I therefore am pressured to go toward the Performance model, but if I do that - then I sacrifice all types of things... Such as Brembo Brakes, front chin spoiler, rear underbody diffusers, rear spoiler, the Rays forged wheels, etc... All of which are important to me, too...

I guess I'm asking for the best of both worlds in a Z, those being luxury AND performance characteristics.. But is that wrong?!
~ Brandon
Luxury items are an important feature to me, such as heated leather, power adjustable seats, higher end audio features, etc. But they aren't in the Track Model - so I therefore am pressured to go toward the Performance model, but if I do that - then I sacrifice all types of things... Such as Brembo Brakes, front chin spoiler, rear underbody diffusers, rear spoiler, the Rays forged wheels, etc... All of which are important to me, too...

I guess I'm asking for the best of both worlds in a Z, those being luxury AND performance characteristics.. But is that wrong?!
~ Brandon
It's FOOKED UP!!!
I was extremely annoyed at Nissan because they wouldn't let me pick and choose anything. I wanted the Track with the power/heated/seats.... no can do... so I said I wanted a CS Performance with burnt orange leather.... no can do.... then I said screw the leather seats give me a CS Track... no can do!!!
I ended up with a CS Performance with the charcoal interior and had to add the aero package. The price gets up there, and the freaking taxes don't help either!
I feel your pain man! Thanks for giving me an opportunity to rant
I was extremely annoyed at Nissan because they wouldn't let me pick and choose anything. I wanted the Track with the power/heated/seats.... no can do... so I said I wanted a CS Performance with burnt orange leather.... no can do.... then I said screw the leather seats give me a CS Track... no can do!!!
I ended up with a CS Performance with the charcoal interior and had to add the aero package. The price gets up there, and the freaking taxes don't help either!
I feel your pain man! Thanks for giving me an opportunity to rant
I'm glad I'm not too attached to the spoiler.. Because if it's not a dealer-provided Option, and that spoiler is a must for you - say goodbye to every luxury ammenity inside the car. It sucks.
They can keep the models the way they are, but I think it would be a good move to make an all inclusive model where the luxury ammenities of the touring and performance characteristics of the Track are combined.
~B
They can keep the models the way they are, but I think it would be a good move to make an all inclusive model where the luxury ammenities of the touring and performance characteristics of the Track are combined.
~B
for the price, you're getting a huge deal vs. our friends south of the border. in canada the performance/touring models are the same, except for the transmission. and for about $45 000 CDN you're getting what americans pay about $34 000 USD for similarly equipped (the american "touring" model). Not to mention that curtain airbags and kickplates comes standard in canada, both options in the us. you're saving *alot* of money. and the track models are basically the same in the us/canada (except that, again, we play less then they do). so what is there to complain about?
Originally posted by fatboydeepak
for the price, you're getting a huge deal vs. our friends south of the border. in canada the performance/touring models are the same, except for the transmission. and for about $45 000 CDN you're getting what americans pay about $34 000 USD for similarly equipped (the american "touring" model). Not to mention that curtain airbags and kickplates comes standard in canada, both options in the us. you're saving *alot* of money. and the track models are basically the same in the us/canada (except that, again, we play less then they do). so what is there to complain about?
for the price, you're getting a huge deal vs. our friends south of the border. in canada the performance/touring models are the same, except for the transmission. and for about $45 000 CDN you're getting what americans pay about $34 000 USD for similarly equipped (the american "touring" model). Not to mention that curtain airbags and kickplates comes standard in canada, both options in the us. you're saving *alot* of money. and the track models are basically the same in the us/canada (except that, again, we play less then they do). so what is there to complain about?
So what is there to complain about?
I COULDN'T GET EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED! Even though I was willing to pay for it... no one here was complaining about base price, I was willing to pay more for what I wanted, but they said they couldn't!
Last edited by phreezee; Feb 8, 2003 at 08:54 PM.
fatboydeepak ... Who said anything about value? Not me. I don't think phreezee mentioned anything about it, either.
Maybe next time you should actually READ the posts before you reply. Just a thought.
Ricky... Uhh... How about no?
~B
Maybe next time you should actually READ the posts before you reply. Just a thought.
Ricky... Uhh... How about no?
~B
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Hey Brandon,
I also had the same dilemna and finally choosed the Perfomance model because it offers more inside the car.
But do you know that you can buy as accessories all the other nice 2 have the track model offers ? You can by the diffuser, the wing... The only thing is the brembo breaks, if you change them you also have to change the wheels because they require a bigger offset. Only for the breaks you'll have to spend about 5K.
I also had the same dilemna and finally choosed the Perfomance model because it offers more inside the car.
But do you know that you can buy as accessories all the other nice 2 have the track model offers ? You can by the diffuser, the wing... The only thing is the brembo breaks, if you change them you also have to change the wheels because they require a bigger offset. Only for the breaks you'll have to spend about 5K.
Originally posted by phreezee
I COULDN'T GET EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED! Even though I was willing to pay for it... no one here was complaining about base price, I was willing to pay more for what I wanted, but they said they couldn't!
I COULDN'T GET EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED! Even though I was willing to pay for it... no one here was complaining about base price, I was willing to pay more for what I wanted, but they said they couldn't!
CHECK THE SPECS!!!
The Canadian Performance and Touring models are IDENTICAL, with the only exception being the tranny. And both come equipped with all possible options except the Navi (which you can pay extra for).
The Track is the exact same Track model the US gets. You cry that Canada doesn't get a fully loaded (e.g., leather) Track... guess what... nobody does!
Before you spout off, check www.nissan.ca and do your homework.
my point exactly. No one on either side of the border can get their cars the way you want them. Track in canada is the same as track in the US. it isn't meant to be a maxed out luxury vehicle. if you want that, get the touring in the US, or either base model in canada. the track is meant to keep the racing spirit in mind. that means that heated seats, leather seats, etc aren't as important as better breaks and an aero kit that improves performance.
p.s. you can get a touring and add aftermarket leather/seats. or, you can get the canadian base model and add brembos/rays aftermarket. you're just gonna pay up the ***
p.s. you can get a touring and add aftermarket leather/seats. or, you can get the canadian base model and add brembos/rays aftermarket. you're just gonna pay up the ***

Originally posted by RoadRagerInTherapy
Dude...
CHECK THE SPECS!!!
The Canadian Performance and Touring models are IDENTICAL, with the only exception being the tranny. And both come equipped with all possible options except the Navi (which you can pay extra for).
The Track is the exact same Track model the US gets. You cry that Canada doesn't get a fully loaded (e.g., leather) Track... guess what... nobody does!
Before you spout off, check www.nissan.ca and do your homework.
Dude...
CHECK THE SPECS!!!
The Canadian Performance and Touring models are IDENTICAL, with the only exception being the tranny. And both come equipped with all possible options except the Navi (which you can pay extra for).
The Track is the exact same Track model the US gets. You cry that Canada doesn't get a fully loaded (e.g., leather) Track... guess what... nobody does!
Before you spout off, check www.nissan.ca and do your homework.
Last edited by fatboydeepak; Feb 9, 2003 at 08:10 AM.
Originally posted by RoadRagerInTherapy
Dude...
CHECK THE SPECS!!!
The Canadian Performance and Touring models are IDENTICAL, with the only exception being the tranny. And both come equipped with all possible options except the Navi (which you can pay extra for).
The Track is the exact same Track model the US gets. You cry that Canada doesn't get a fully loaded (e.g., leather) Track... guess what... nobody does!
Before you spout off, check www.nissan.ca and do your homework.
Dude...
CHECK THE SPECS!!!
The Canadian Performance and Touring models are IDENTICAL, with the only exception being the tranny. And both come equipped with all possible options except the Navi (which you can pay extra for).
The Track is the exact same Track model the US gets. You cry that Canada doesn't get a fully loaded (e.g., leather) Track... guess what... nobody does!
Before you spout off, check www.nissan.ca and do your homework.
1)When did I say the Touring and Performance are not the same other than Tranny? In fact, I can't even find the word "Touring" in any of my earlier posts in this topic!
2)Did I say the US Track could get power/seated/leather seats?
Don't ASSume things.
Instead of telling me to do my homework...Why don't you learn to read... before you spout off!
Maybe enroll in some written comprehension courses along with your anger management course!
Notice, that in any of my posts, I don't even differentiate between Canada/US models, I merely comment on the restrictions on the choices we are allowed.
My point was Nissan doesn't allow the consumer the freedom of choice. For instance, why would having CS + Burnt Orange be so difficult to do?
You say don't complain because nobody gets the choice... well maybe everybody SHOULD get the choice! Is this so much to ask? I hardly think so.
Ok.... now someone else make something up, assume I said it, and argue against it!
LOLOh and to add a little CDN humour to this... " Just because you're from T.O. , doesn't mean you're right!
Last edited by phreezee; Feb 9, 2003 at 09:47 AM.
You guys arguing FOR Nissan need a reality check. Simply because they make us a great car doesn't mean we should bow down and keep our mouths shut. After all... we are PAYING THEM for the vehicle, and if I'm going to put down nearly $50,000 of my HARD earned Canadian dollars, I think I reserve the RIGHT to speak my mind on what options I should have.
~B
~B
Well imo the colour choice of japan brand car always seem to have a lack of choice for the customer to choose.
for example, my father was planning to buy the 2003 LX470 last year since he's waiting for the navi for so long and it finally came out, then we heard the colour change, and guess what!? the colour is like all F@ck up~! they alter the colour so there will be no golden pearl anymore(which is a must colour in luxury car) and they change it into some sorta milky white(like a pancake colour with no clear coat) then they fock up the white and they cancel the match of White/ivory, so the only choice when u want to go for pearl white is to choose the freakin' grey interior(which is not so good looking in such a big jeep). so my father was stranded and he finally cancelled his order and wait for something else~
now life is like that sometimes u have to accept it, and that's the pros/cons of japan car.
BTW, i think u can solve ur option problem easily, the only thing u have to do is to wait for a totaled track, and search which junkyard it went, then u can probably get the wheel or the brake for a pretty cheap price~
for example, my father was planning to buy the 2003 LX470 last year since he's waiting for the navi for so long and it finally came out, then we heard the colour change, and guess what!? the colour is like all F@ck up~! they alter the colour so there will be no golden pearl anymore(which is a must colour in luxury car) and they change it into some sorta milky white(like a pancake colour with no clear coat) then they fock up the white and they cancel the match of White/ivory, so the only choice when u want to go for pearl white is to choose the freakin' grey interior(which is not so good looking in such a big jeep). so my father was stranded and he finally cancelled his order and wait for something else~
now life is like that sometimes u have to accept it, and that's the pros/cons of japan car.
BTW, i think u can solve ur option problem easily, the only thing u have to do is to wait for a totaled track, and search which junkyard it went, then u can probably get the wheel or the brake for a pretty cheap price~
i don't think there is a difference between can/us trannies....both were made/assembled in japan...
i do'nt think all 6 speeds had that grinding problem, either. in any case, whats why i'm waiting for the 2004 model year

i do'nt think all 6 speeds had that grinding problem, either. in any case, whats why i'm waiting for the 2004 model year

Originally posted by Iceman02
Fatboydeepak,
What is the difference between the cdn tranny vs the US one ?
Hope we don't get the grinding problem
Fatboydeepak,
What is the difference between the cdn tranny vs the US one ?
Hope we don't get the grinding problem
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