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Old 12-05-2006, 11:01 AM
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there is no local meets for me, not all of us can live in a big city
Old 12-05-2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Driven1
Please don't do this. This is an EXTREME hazard to other drivers who might be behind you when (not if) it flies off the car.

Other than that I believe there is a correct area to post this, thats why the previous one was moved. (i.e. body,paint, exterior) And you're more likely to get a better and more accurate response.

Actually, 3M Acrylic Foam Tape looks to have a high enough static force strength and breakaway peel resistance strength to more than suffice to temporarily mount a wing, even in driving conditions.

Here is a snapshot of the datasheet:

Old 12-05-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bb1314
So.. you guys are saying...

1. If the Z doesn't have any wing at all and you want to install the OEM lip spoiler, you need to drill 2 holes

2. If the Z doesn't have any wing at at all and you want to install the OEM Nismo spoiler, you need to drill 4 holes.

3. If the Z has the OEM spoiler and you want to install the Nismo spoiler, you need to drill 2 extra holes and the Nismo spoiler would use the existing 2 holes and the 2 new holes.

4. If the Z has the Nismo spoiler and you want to install the OEM lip spoiler, you need to fill 2 of the holes since the OEM spoiler wouldn't cover up the other 2.

Am I correct?

Also, in item 3, I've heard something about the difference between JDM Nismo spoiler vs. US version of Nismo spoiler.
Ugh.... NO.

OEM lip spolier has 4 holes. Nismo adds another 4 or 5 (depending on OEM USDM or JDM replica and manufacturer).

US wing tips are a little shorter and sit above the hatch. JDM wing tips are longer and rest on the hatch (which is what I have and looks 10X better, IMO).

Here are some pics (best I could do with what I've already got on the web):













Old 12-05-2006, 11:09 AM
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ok... so regardless. If I have the OEM spoiler lip right now and I want to get the Nismo spoiler, I don't have to "fill" any holes.
Old 12-05-2006, 11:11 AM
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that looks nice, i would be rocking greddy sides and stock rims
Old 12-05-2006, 11:40 AM
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Thats great. Good research. However, common sense and pure aerodynamics would poke holes in this theory.

Break away peel refers to a direct pull application (90 degrees). This force does not exist during the aerodynamic force created by a car. And static sheer is done at 180 degrees which also does not exist (mainly in the rear) but is closer to the actual forces be exerted. The force actually exerted on the wing would be somewhat of a combination of the two (and the reverse from the breakaway peel, downforce) and the height of the wing would magnify the force exerted, by whats know as leverage.

Also, notice that we are now in Dec. and the temps in most places are now significantly lower than 70 degrees (even in Florida, mainly during the nights) and far from optimal for achieving adhesion.

And all of those numbers (measure in N) can easily be exceeded under regular driving conditions. As the speed increases, the force multiplies and doesn't slowly increase with the increase of speed.

Take for instance the downforce created by a racecar. They have been recorded creating 1000's of pounds of downforce.

http://www.nas.nasa.gov/About/Educat...r/physics.html
Old 12-05-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nothingremains
there is no local meets for me, not all of us can live in a big city
Understood. Then I would suggest waiting until your mind is made up, and proceeding accordingly.
Old 12-05-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nothingremains
that looks nice, i would be rocking greddy sides and stock rims

Here you go...

This is right after I got my wheels on...




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Old 12-05-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bb1314
ok... so regardless. If I have the OEM spoiler lip right now and I want to get the Nismo spoiler, I don't have to "fill" any holes.
As long as its JDM spec or the newer US version.
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Couple more with the old rims at GIR.




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Old 01-04-2007, 04:24 PM
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Question for all you Nismo wing owners... can anyone tell me what size screws connect the base to the wing and the base to the car?

i got a replica wing off the boards here and it came with no screws.

any help would be awesome.

thanks.
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