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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Talking Head light question

I have been looking at all these threads on painting the head light housing and I have yet to see one that is done like how I want it done. I have a 2004 Z with non-hid and I want my housing to look just like this http://www.mrzipps.com/ but I have 2004 head lights, will this make light output terrible? Has anyone done a full black out to the housing except the projector its self?

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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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anyone?
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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On the pre 06 lights, you will need to leave the reflectors on both sides of the projector. In the blinker area, if you go with the forward facing LEDs you wont need the reflector behind that. As for the high beam and parking lamps, below the projector, you can't black that our either.

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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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On the pre 06 lights, you will need to leave the reflectors on both sides of the projector. In the blinker area, if you go with the forward facing LEDs you wont need the reflector behind that. As for the high beam and parking lamps, below the projector, you can't black that our either.

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why not...? im not trying to be a smart a$$...
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TuscaniJon
why not...? im not trying to be a smart a$$...
because you have a "reflector" headlight assembly. You need the chrome areas to "reflect".

The 06 headlights are "true projectors", not needing the side areas to reflect light. That's why I changed my headlights to th 06's then painted it.

here's another one for your reference:

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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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All of those lights use the reflector to put more light forward.

For instance, if you black out the reflector for the high beam, it will no longer have any throw. It wont put any meaningful light in front of you.

Here is an experiment for you:
Take a mag light and compare the following. With the lens cap in place focused across a dark room and notice how bright focused area is.

Now unscrew the lens cap so you just have an exposed bulb. The bulb itself has not changed brightness but because it has no focus, it only cast a dim light around the whole room. Now cup your hand around half of the bulb allowing the other half to show on your same section of wall as you did before (your hand is acting like the black painted reflector), the open side will still cast that same dim light (you could also try this by painting your mag light reflector but I doubt you want to do that). Without focus, even the little parking lights are unable to do the job.

Another thing to think about would be this, lets say you painted your signal section black, now instead of an area of about 2x6" that spreads as it travels out, you only have about a 1x1" circle that pretty much stays a tiny point of light. Not many people will notice such a small spot flashing at them in the day time.

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz
because you have a "reflector" headlight assembly. You need the chrome areas to "reflect".

The 06 headlights are "true projectors", not needing the side areas to reflect light. That's why I changed my headlights to th 06's then painted it.

here's another one for your reference:

thanks for the pic jerk j/k(im jelous) thats exactly how I want my headlights to look... but I have a 2004 without HIDs so i don't think it is possible to convert.
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Originally Posted by HyperSprite
All of those lights use the reflector to put more light forward.

For instance, if you black out the reflector for the high beam, it will no longer have any throw. It wont put any meaningful light in front of you.

Here is an experiment for you:
Take a mag light and compare the following. With the lens cap in place focused across a dark room and notice how bright focused area is.

Now unscrew the lens cap so you just have an exposed bulb. The bulb itself has not changed brightness but because it has no focus, it only cast a dim light around the whole room. Now cup your hand around half of the bulb allowing the other half to show on your same section of wall as you did before (your hand is acting like the black painted reflector), the open side will still cast that same dim light (you could also try this by painting your mag light reflector but I doubt you want to do that). Without focus, even the little parking lights are unable to do the job.

Another thing to think about would be this, lets say you painted your signal section black, now instead of an area of about 2x6" that spreads as it travels out, you only have about a 1x1" circle that pretty much stays a tiny point of light. Not many people will notice such a small spot flashing at them in the day time.

Chris
thanks for the feedback that helps out a bunch
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It is possible!
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It is possible!
if you want to spend over a grand on headlights and if money grew on trees.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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also do you have to remove the front bumper to take out the headlights?
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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yes.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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this is going to be a project for sure.
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TuscaniJon
this is going to be a project for sure.
If you are interested I have a .pdf with dealer instruction on how to remove the bumper. Send me an email to Dan@MrZipps.com
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Here are mine. 04's with the ENTIRE headlight blacked out. Even the outer projector housing. I could have left it silver and similar to what's posted above and save myself some work, but i wanted my car BLACK BLACK BLAAAAACK. It's true however, that your high beams will become next to useless doing it this way. Some people, like me, couldn't care less about high beams since i never use them anyway.

https://my350z.com/forum/questionable-posts/216192-fs-04-hid-blacked-out-headlights-100-a.html
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