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I love it when these guys out here call even body kits ricey.
Its funny to me because this car comes from japan. almost every z you see anywhere on the net from japan is kitted up. Look at pics of the tokyo auto salon. Yea there are alot of stock looking Z's there. these guys like making the z an american car. He probably had a mustang before the Z.
Its funny to me because this car comes from japan. almost every z you see anywhere on the net from japan is kitted up. Look at pics of the tokyo auto salon. Yea there are alot of stock looking Z's there. these guys like making the z an american car. He probably had a mustang before the Z.
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Originally posted by sdpearso
They replace the stock b-pillar covers. They just snap on...takes about 30 seconds per side.
They replace the stock b-pillar covers. They just snap on...takes about 30 seconds per side.
... and yet, so easy to steal. Its a shame manufacturers sometimes make items so accessable. Its a good thing no one is really interested in stealing the stock ones!
Personally, I dont care much for them. I dont like the words "rice," and I dont think most of the people on this forum use the word correctly. Unless you see a Z with yellow painted calipers (non-brembo), pep boys pads, led insert bulbs, led nozzes, 3A racing seats, erebuni shogun kit, pacesetter headers and a bro-speed exhaust -- its not rice.
The Z is a classy car, its a heart-wrenching experience seeing people with poor taste modify them. I've seen it happen to all types of cars, from Ferrari's to Hondas -- there's no stopping it.
I just call it bad taste, the word rice is more or less derogatory.. so I try not to use it. The inserts are okay if your car is just 100% carbon fiber, like the enzo ferrari.. but the Z is not, so I am not a big fan of those parts. I am not against them, just dont find them appealing or functional.
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Originally posted by old_s13
Ah.. so easy to install...
... and yet, so easy to steal. Its a shame manufacturers sometimes make items so accessable. Its a good thing no one is really interested in stealing the stock ones!
Ah.. so easy to install...
... and yet, so easy to steal. Its a shame manufacturers sometimes make items so accessable. Its a good thing no one is really interested in stealing the stock ones!
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I like em....They cost $59 for very other car made though....and thats for four pieces normally.
Even the ones from Toyota of Japan for my Lexus GS only Cost me $90.
$220 is just rediclously high...not to be rude.
Even the ones from Toyota of Japan for my Lexus GS only Cost me $90.
$220 is just rediclously high...not to be rude.
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Yes, way too expensive and
I could produce them for $50.00 A set. Real carbon fiber, laser cut exactly. with 3M4229P exterior rated tape. Yes they can be stolen but they will be ripping the whole panel off with it. To replace the factory black panel cost about $40.00 each side from your local dealer.
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"I could produce them for $50.00 A set. Real carbon fiber, laser cut exactly. with 3M4229P exterior rated tape. Yes they can be stolen but they will be ripping the whole panel off with it. To replace the factory black panel cost about $40.00 each side from your local dealer."
Wouldnt the difference be that yours will be over-lays, while the ones they sell are FULL CARBON FIBER?
There appears to be a difference.
Wouldnt the difference be that yours will be over-lays, while the ones they sell are FULL CARBON FIBER?
There appears to be a difference.
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Originally posted by old_s13
"I could produce them for $50.00 A set. Real carbon fiber, laser cut exactly. with 3M4229P exterior rated tape. Yes they can be stolen but they will be ripping the whole panel off with it. To replace the factory black panel cost about $40.00 each side from your local dealer."
Wouldnt the difference be that yours will be over-lays, while the ones they sell are FULL CARBON FIBER?
There appears to be a difference.
"I could produce them for $50.00 A set. Real carbon fiber, laser cut exactly. with 3M4229P exterior rated tape. Yes they can be stolen but they will be ripping the whole panel off with it. To replace the factory black panel cost about $40.00 each side from your local dealer."
Wouldnt the difference be that yours will be over-lays, while the ones they sell are FULL CARBON FIBER?
There appears to be a difference.
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I dont know what everyone else is talking about. Those carbon bits look awesome. Carbon fiber is a subtle and exotic looking material. It looks especially badass on the daytona blue!
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The ones I can produce are overlays. Sorry if that was not clear. The advantage? None really. The diff between the two installs would be barely perceptible. I saw a set yesterday and they look great. The big diif is the price. Is it worth an extra $170.00 to have the socalled full set? Cause from 5 feet away, straight on no one can tell the difference.
The ones I can produce are overlays. Sorry if that was not clear. The advantage? None really. The diff between the two installs would be barely perceptible. I saw a set yesterday and they look great. The big diif is the price. Is it worth an extra $170.00 to have the socalled full set? Cause from 5 feet away, straight on no one can tell the difference.
Personally, I hate vaneer anything, whether its wood, carbon fiber, or teeth covers (which are commonly used in the dental industry).
I can appreciate some of your products, I saw on your site you did some work on certain BMW's and other high-end cars which commonly use wood or carbon fiber for interior accenting -- that, I can understand.
For me, I dont like things that are fake.. I'de rather keep it plastic than cover something in fake carbon fiber or wood appearance. If you're gonna make something out of wood, make it out of wood. This is the same reason I hate Las Vegas, all the walls look like they are made of marble, but feel like they are made of styrafoam when you pound on them!!!
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Originally posted by old_s13
Not trying to hate on your business, but its this exact mentality in which people like yourself feel vaneer wood is acceptable.
Personally, I hate vaneer anything, whether its wood, carbon fiber, or teeth covers (which are commonly used in the dental industry).
I can appreciate some of your products, I saw on your site you did some work on certain BMW's and other high-end cars which commonly use wood or carbon fiber for interior accenting -- that, I can understand.
For me, I dont like things that are fake.. I'de rather keep it plastic than cover something in fake carbon fiber or wood appearance. If you're gonna make something out of wood, make it out of wood. This is the same reason I hate Las Vegas, all the walls look like they are made of marble, but feel like they are made of styrafoam when you pound on them!!!
Not trying to hate on your business, but its this exact mentality in which people like yourself feel vaneer wood is acceptable.
Personally, I hate vaneer anything, whether its wood, carbon fiber, or teeth covers (which are commonly used in the dental industry).
I can appreciate some of your products, I saw on your site you did some work on certain BMW's and other high-end cars which commonly use wood or carbon fiber for interior accenting -- that, I can understand.
For me, I dont like things that are fake.. I'de rather keep it plastic than cover something in fake carbon fiber or wood appearance. If you're gonna make something out of wood, make it out of wood. This is the same reason I hate Las Vegas, all the walls look like they are made of marble, but feel like they are made of styrafoam when you pound on them!!!
Well yeah, Vegas is a fine example of phony glittery coverings but,
Did you know the finest woodworking examples can only be accomplished with the use of veneer? A rolls Royce dashboard has never been solid burlwood. Nor has any vehicle ever made. Solid burlwood CANNOT be used for that purpose for a variety of reasons. One being cost. The other is it is unstable in solid form. Its grain has no uniform direction. It is all over the place. It twists and turns over time. This can also be said for most other woods. Zebrano in the Mercedes is veneer. Even as a straight grain wood, in solid form it is too unpredictable and its movement cannot be controlled. to Illustrate a bit more, a ten foot plank 10 inches wide, 1 inch thick, left to itself is going to twist every which way eventually, but a plywood board (which is just a pile of veneers glued together, will not ever exhibit the same behavior. The other thing is many woods are prized for thier beautiful grain patterns which can only be seen if it is processed into a veneer form.
About the only solid burlwood items made these days are pipes. The tobacco kind.
And whether it is my carbon fiber stick on or his carbon fiber replacement panel, they are both VENEERS. Just a difference in processes to the same end.
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Pinnacle, I agree with you.. wood definately has a tendancy to warp.. no doubt about that. But, thats not to say that vaneer is any better.. its basically particle board with an upper layer of high-priced wood -- that is what bothers me.
For automotive use, I personally dont see anything wrong with vaneer which has been coated with a clear/laquer-like finish.. thats all fine and dandy if that is the look you are going for. As for the carbon-fiber look or laminate, I am against that. There is absolutely no point to doing anything like that. I despise products where the sole intention of the product is to fool others into thinking its something its not.
Again, there is a reason the TRUE carbon fiber b-pillar covers cost that much.. REAL CF was never designed to be "affordable." Well, not until the recent trend of making low-grade CF/Fiberglas hoods for $300 bucks started happening.
For automotive use, I personally dont see anything wrong with vaneer which has been coated with a clear/laquer-like finish.. thats all fine and dandy if that is the look you are going for. As for the carbon-fiber look or laminate, I am against that. There is absolutely no point to doing anything like that. I despise products where the sole intention of the product is to fool others into thinking its something its not.
Again, there is a reason the TRUE carbon fiber b-pillar covers cost that much.. REAL CF was never designed to be "affordable." Well, not until the recent trend of making low-grade CF/Fiberglas hoods for $300 bucks started happening.
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Some of the people calling this piece 'rice' are also rolling on heavy 19 inch bling wheels. The only thing a 19 inch wheel on a Z will do is slow it down, hardly a 'performance' mod. Lightweight 17's on a Z is a performance mod. So the 19's are for looks then, just as the CF B pillar is. Someone said it, ricey car owners buy their products from Pep Boys and the like. This piece isn't true 'rice'. It's a tasteful addition to the car, not a 3 foot aluminum wing or altezzas.
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