Ebay Vendors versus My350z.com Vendors "Seats"
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Either way no one here knows until you try a seat and smash your Z if its worth it you just assume the worst and will never know because of that. Not to mention this is not for a daily driver, I have only driven my Z 1k miles the last year and 6 months that I have had it. This is just a project car and is nothing but a hobby to me. You people need to lighten up and open your mind a little.
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It is cheap china crap. No engineering. No safety testing. Cheaper, lower quality materials. Mass produced by less paid, non-union laborers with less education/skill/knowledge. I could tell you all about manufacturing in China, I travel all over the world setting up manufacturing sites for my company including two weeks I just spent in Shenzhen.
American company selling cheap imitation products poorly copied and manufactured in china.
With respect to your original post regarding forum vendors vs. ebay. The reason ebay can deliver goods for so cheap is that most of the "shops" on ebay have no actual experience with the products they sell. Its just a warehouse where boxes come and go. Many of the vendors on ebay have multiple store fronts of crap they shipped in from china.
The vendors here tend to know what they're talking about when it comes to the products they sell/endorse so if you do have a problem (which will inevitably happen in the world of modified automobiles), you can call them up and get some help figuring it out.
American company selling cheap imitation products poorly copied and manufactured in china.
With respect to your original post regarding forum vendors vs. ebay. The reason ebay can deliver goods for so cheap is that most of the "shops" on ebay have no actual experience with the products they sell. Its just a warehouse where boxes come and go. Many of the vendors on ebay have multiple store fronts of crap they shipped in from china.
The vendors here tend to know what they're talking about when it comes to the products they sell/endorse so if you do have a problem (which will inevitably happen in the world of modified automobiles), you can call them up and get some help figuring it out.
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Its rather funny how people have these EBAY blinders on and can not see true safety hazards when its in your face. Lets talk about CF hoods. It does not matter if its VIS, CS, or Seibon all without hood pins are far greater safety hazards than a seat.
I agree with OP on how some vendors are charging more than an ebay price. But sometimes vendors give you a better deal than on ebay. I think it depends on the product and how well your searching for a deal. I just got a Borla True Dual for $925 on ebay
another reason EBAY parts can be cheaper is they can be:
1)Used
2) Refurbished
3) Fake (Borla style)
4) No overhead costs. These are guys just sitting in front of their computer, selling to make $10 off the part.
What your also getting is no service, if you have an issue with your part...it would be hard for you to get warranty support on it. So it boils down to risk vs thriftness
1)Used
2) Refurbished
3) Fake (Borla style)
4) No overhead costs. These are guys just sitting in front of their computer, selling to make $10 off the part.
What your also getting is no service, if you have an issue with your part...it would be hard for you to get warranty support on it. So it boils down to risk vs thriftness
The part you're not getting is that I'm not buying cheap replica crap from the vendors anywhere. I buy quality parts. Yes, they cost a bit more, but I know they've been put through the testing to ensure safety/performance/durability. If I were interested in a CF hood, I wouldn't buy VIS, CS or Seibon. I'd shop for C-West, or Ings+1, Varis, etc.
I understand the value of quality, you sir, do not. Enjoy ebay-modding your car, I'm sure the resale value is skyrocketing.
I understand the value of quality, you sir, do not. Enjoy ebay-modding your car, I'm sure the resale value is skyrocketing.
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heres a review of another seat they make http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26tbs%3Disch:1
but honestly this was abot NRG not my seat, guess I should of left what I bought out of the thread. LOL
but honestly this was abot NRG not my seat, guess I should of left what I bought out of the thread. LOL
another reason EBAY parts can be cheaper is they can be:
1)Used
2) Refurbished
3) Fake (Borla style)
4) No overhead costs. These are guys just sitting in front of their computer, selling to make $10 off the part.
What your also getting is no service, if you have an issue with your part...it would be hard for you to get warranty support on it. So it boils down to risk vs thriftness
1)Used
2) Refurbished
3) Fake (Borla style)
4) No overhead costs. These are guys just sitting in front of their computer, selling to make $10 off the part.
What your also getting is no service, if you have an issue with your part...it would be hard for you to get warranty support on it. So it boils down to risk vs thriftness
Although it's hard to listen to anyone who says seat belts do not save lives, the op's original point is in fact very true. If you are willing to do the research and know exactly what brand/model of a product that you want (not just in car products, but anything), Ebay is generally cheaper due to reasons previously stated. You also have the benefit of Paypal covering your butt in the event of a problem, and they almost always rule in favor of the buyer in Ebay related issues.
I've used Ebay for over 5 years now to buy a few name brand car parts, but mainly things like laptops, higher end apparel, etc. The savings can be huge if you just know exactly what you want and buy from reputable sellers.
To state the op's original point better and without ridiculous ignorant stupid (insert adjective) claims about seat belts being unsafe:
If you can buy one product at a higher price with no third party insuring the arrival of your product or you can buy the exact same product at a lower price with the insurance of reputable third party, which you would choose? Seems to be pretty clear to me.
This isn't to say vendors are always more expensive. I've gotten competitive quotes and bought from vendors on here, and it's also nice to support those who really contribute to the Z community. But if there is even a question about the stability and reliability of a vendor, why buy from them if the product is sitting on ebay for a similar price?
I've used Ebay for over 5 years now to buy a few name brand car parts, but mainly things like laptops, higher end apparel, etc. The savings can be huge if you just know exactly what you want and buy from reputable sellers.
To state the op's original point better and without ridiculous ignorant stupid (insert adjective) claims about seat belts being unsafe:
If you can buy one product at a higher price with no third party insuring the arrival of your product or you can buy the exact same product at a lower price with the insurance of reputable third party, which you would choose? Seems to be pretty clear to me.
This isn't to say vendors are always more expensive. I've gotten competitive quotes and bought from vendors on here, and it's also nice to support those who really contribute to the Z community. But if there is even a question about the stability and reliability of a vendor, why buy from them if the product is sitting on ebay for a similar price?
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another reason EBAY parts can be cheaper is they can be:
1)Used
2) Refurbished
3) Fake (Borla style)
4) No overhead costs. These are guys just sitting in front of their computer, selling to make $10 off the part.
What your also getting is no service, if you have an issue with your part...it would be hard for you to get warranty support on it. So it boils down to risk vs thriftness
1)Used
2) Refurbished
3) Fake (Borla style)
4) No overhead costs. These are guys just sitting in front of their computer, selling to make $10 off the part.
What your also getting is no service, if you have an issue with your part...it would be hard for you to get warranty support on it. So it boils down to risk vs thriftness
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this thread has nothing to do with a seat or it's safety. it is all about robbinsj crying about vendor prices over ebay prices.
simple solution: if ebay is cheaper, then frickin buy from ebay. there is no need for a thread like this crying or calling out vendors. you don't like the price, don't buy it.
simple solution: if ebay is cheaper, then frickin buy from ebay. there is no need for a thread like this crying or calling out vendors. you don't like the price, don't buy it.
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this thread has nothing to do with a seat or it's safety. it is all about robbinsj crying about vendor prices over ebay prices.
simple solution: if ebay is cheaper, then frickin buy from ebay. there is no need for a thread like this crying or calling out vendors. you don't like the price, don't buy it.
simple solution: if ebay is cheaper, then frickin buy from ebay. there is no need for a thread like this crying or calling out vendors. you don't like the price, don't buy it.
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Further clarifies what I mean when I referred to EBAY blinders. Furthermore research a member before disrespecting there Z, I have more money in just the mods on my car than your Z is worth.
Just face the facts robbinsj, any name brand products that you have purchased through ebay are clearly inferior to the exact product bought from a random person online with no third party insuring the arrival of your product. And since you engage in this type of buying, your car is clearly a POS.
But seriously, I understand not buying knock off crap(although 4k+ and volk stickers are not necessary for good performing rims/tires as is the view by many here), but what experiences have you guys had to make you despise ebay? I personally have come to hate it as a seller, but it's perfect for buyers with a little common sense.
But seriously, I understand not buying knock off crap(although 4k+ and volk stickers are not necessary for good performing rims/tires as is the view by many here), but what experiences have you guys had to make you despise ebay? I personally have come to hate it as a seller, but it's perfect for buyers with a little common sense.
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Just face the facts robbinsj, any name brand products that you have purchased through ebay are clearly inferior to the exact product bought from a random person online with no third party insuring the arrival of your product. And since you engage in this type of buying, your car is clearly a POS.
But seriously, I understand not buying knock off crap(although 4k+ and volk stickers are not necessary for good performing rims/tires as is the view by many here), but what experiences have you guys had to make you despise ebay? I personally have come to hate it as a seller, but it's perfect for buyers with a little common sense.
But seriously, I understand not buying knock off crap(although 4k+ and volk stickers are not necessary for good performing rims/tires as is the view by many here), but what experiences have you guys had to make you despise ebay? I personally have come to hate it as a seller, but it's perfect for buyers with a little common sense.
OP, you and anyone else that is a member of this forum are free to spend your money wherever your heart desires. It is not the job of any vendor to force you to purchase from us simply because we support this forum financially. It would be nice for you or anyone else to purchase your goods from our respective shops in a show of support to us vendors but again you are not obliged too. In the end it is your prerogative and I wish you best of luck. Lastly, I would like to say that if for any reason you might require assistance on an eBay purchased product then I don't think you should expect assistance from any of this forum's many vendors.
I just read your other thread regarding not receiving this item and I wish you too the best of luck as well.
https://my350z.com/forum/entertainme...9-from-me.html
https://my350z.com/forum/entertainme...9-from-me.html
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OP, you and anyone else that is a member of this forum are free to spend your money wherever your heart desires. It is not the job of any vendor to force you to purchase from us simply because we support this forum financially. It would be nice for you or anyone else to purchase your goods from our respective shops in a show of support to us vendors but again you are not obliged too. In the end it is your prerogative and I wish you best of luck. Lastly, I would like to say that if for any reason you might require assistance on an eBay purchased product then I don't think you should expect assistance from any of this forum's many vendors.
I just read your other thread regarding not receiving this item and I wish you too the best of luck as well.
https://my350z.com/forum/entertainme...9-from-me.html
I just read your other thread regarding not receiving this item and I wish you too the best of luck as well.
https://my350z.com/forum/entertainme...9-from-me.html
Least the EBAYed issue will be resolved quikly if he pushes it to paypal via a claim. Please advise what all these many people who where shafted by AI should do???
Honestly there are a couple vendors on here that I absolutly enjoy working with and will buy from them again. Still does not make sence to avoid EBAY even if it is only a 20$ savings. It was a 125$ savings on a seat style I actually want with ebay/paypal protection so I rather go with EBAY on this case. Either way I much rather buy from EBAY than some and would rather buy from some than EBAY. Every situation is a differant story and in no way am I recommending people go and shop ebay only. Simply implying people to open there minds to some rare deals found there and not alowing themselfs be brain washed by EBAY blinders.
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On the other hand I would like to take a moment to THANK A VENDOR from this site.
CuztomPartZ
www.ZSpeedPerformance.com
They are very helpfull and actually create new parts:
https://my350z.com/forum/exterior-an...-needed-4.html
This vendor has been the only one to step forward to do this and I thank them greatfully and with great respect I will always buy from them.
Another vendor:
CVR Motorsports for the best price on Seibon!
https://my350z.com/forum/body-exteri...stributor.html
I like some vendors here, simply tring to get others to pull the blinders off and open there eyes and mind to the possibility that EBAY may have a better deal.
Body parts seem to be the only problem area for My350z vendors, at least for as long as i have been a member.
Almost all vendors on here are top notch in every other area, there is no debating that. As stated earlier, price point is due to overhead.
Almost all vendors on here are top notch in every other area, there is no debating that. As stated earlier, price point is due to overhead.






