Ebay Vendors versus My350z.com Vendors "Seats"
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Frist let me state I know what everyones opinion is of buying from EBAY but to have that stance is sterotypical and closed minded. With that being said I just want to point out the simple FACT that most vendors here are also on EBAY and all vendors that are no longer here "mastergrade and others" are now only on EBAY.
Now that we can move forward and open our minds I want to post some more facts.
NRG Carbon Fiber seats:
I picked NRG based on them being the cheapest CF seat I could find and I being a stickler on spending tons of $$$ on somthing that has no performance enhancment past comfort. "not talking racing applications so turn the flamers off"
First I would like to quote our forum vendors without listing names as I am not here to call them out.
Our vendors here quote 525$ - 550$ shipped.
EBAY vendors have them for 495$ shipped obo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...OR:MOTORS:1123
I low balled them an offer at $400 shipped to hit the lowest price and they confirmed 480$ shipped is the lowest.
My question here is simple, why is our "special forum price" higher than EBAY prices? Furthermore EBAY has benifts of PayPal without +3%, EBAY purchase protection and a better feedback system with more ratings that help identify the shady sellers.
Now honestly I will only buy named brands when dealing with EBAY as only off named brands are the "buyer beware" as a NRG seat is the same no matter where I get it.
In closing MOST of our forum vendors here are sad and shady and I think there should be a better format for vendors to be checked for quality and pricing compaired to the local market.
Yea EBAY might be the new K-mart but NRG does not make diff seats for diff vendors, in the end they are all the same and a smart buyer goes in with an open mind and can identify the better deal.
In closing, I am not buying the NRG seats I am goign to try the BRIDE replicas made by "Aero Designs". I decided to go this route as I love the Gardis III but not enough to drop 2g's per seat. Got the same style seat with real CF for 425$ shipped. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...OS:MOTORS:1123
"btw I obo them for 20$ less and the accepted thats why it is 425$ shipped"
Now that we can move forward and open our minds I want to post some more facts.
NRG Carbon Fiber seats:
I picked NRG based on them being the cheapest CF seat I could find and I being a stickler on spending tons of $$$ on somthing that has no performance enhancment past comfort. "not talking racing applications so turn the flamers off"
First I would like to quote our forum vendors without listing names as I am not here to call them out.
Our vendors here quote 525$ - 550$ shipped.
EBAY vendors have them for 495$ shipped obo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...OR:MOTORS:1123
I low balled them an offer at $400 shipped to hit the lowest price and they confirmed 480$ shipped is the lowest.
My question here is simple, why is our "special forum price" higher than EBAY prices? Furthermore EBAY has benifts of PayPal without +3%, EBAY purchase protection and a better feedback system with more ratings that help identify the shady sellers.
Now honestly I will only buy named brands when dealing with EBAY as only off named brands are the "buyer beware" as a NRG seat is the same no matter where I get it.
In closing MOST of our forum vendors here are sad and shady and I think there should be a better format for vendors to be checked for quality and pricing compaired to the local market.
Yea EBAY might be the new K-mart but NRG does not make diff seats for diff vendors, in the end they are all the same and a smart buyer goes in with an open mind and can identify the better deal.
In closing, I am not buying the NRG seats I am goign to try the BRIDE replicas made by "Aero Designs". I decided to go this route as I love the Gardis III but not enough to drop 2g's per seat. Got the same style seat with real CF for 425$ shipped. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...OS:MOTORS:1123
"btw I obo them for 20$ less and the accepted thats why it is 425$ shipped"
some good points you bring up!
Fortunately for me i have had only positive experiences from our vendors and members.
Fortunately for me i have had only positive experiences from our vendors and members.
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Most have been positive experiances but when buying somthing like a seat that costs big $$$ for little or no differance from stock. I started to really look into what is the cheapest "real" carbon fiber seat on the market and where to get it. This led me to many vendors here and else ware only to end up in the one place we all have black balled "EBAY" at one time or another.
Not here to flame any vendors just think others might want to know what I have found.
Not here to flame any vendors just think others might want to know what I have found.
Buying a seat (or most other parts) for your car shouldn't be based on how cheap you can get it.
That seat you buy could save your life or could end your life.
Choose wisely.
That seat you buy could save your life or could end your life.
Choose wisely.
Keep in mind one of the main differences between seats that cost $2k and seats that cost $500 is safety testing and quality. I wouldn't trust my life to a P.O.S. chinese carbon knock-off just because I wanted to save a few $$$.
There are plenty of affordable sub $500 seats that are safety/crash tested on the market. Any spec miata or SCCA driver/shop should be able to point you in the right direction.
There are plenty of affordable sub $500 seats that are safety/crash tested on the market. Any spec miata or SCCA driver/shop should be able to point you in the right direction.
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Please enlighten me then, how the hell would a seat save my life???

First:
A NRG seat is the same no matter where you get it so yes I support a compeating market and endorse where it costs less for the same product.
Second:
I strongly do not beleave a seat nor seat belt effects safty in any way and all safety is based on luck, timing and angle.
I have a friend who died because she was wearing a seat belt. The car hit a tree and the driver was ejected because he was not wearing a seat belt. Based on the angle he hit the ejection launced him into a ditch where he lived. The car caught fire and the passenger who was wearing the belt burned to death. He still hears the cries of his burning girl friend to this day.
So please enlighten me on how my choice of seat can save or end my life?
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Keep in mind one of the main differences between seats that cost $2k and seats that cost $500 is safety testing and quality. I wouldn't trust my life to a P.O.S. chinese carbon knock-off just because I wanted to save a few $$$.
There are plenty of affordable sub $500 seats that are safety/crash tested on the market. Any spec miata or SCCA driver/shop should be able to point you in the right direction.
There are plenty of affordable sub $500 seats that are safety/crash tested on the market. Any spec miata or SCCA driver/shop should be able to point you in the right direction.
Please advise how a seat can save your life? Unless it melts under my @$$ or breaks free and slides me around the cabin then I do not see how the seat will effect me in any unsafe way.
Last edited by robbinsj; Mar 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM.
I expected this much from you.
Please enlighten me then, how the hell would a seat save my life???
First:
A NRG seat is the same no matter where you get it so yes I support a compeating market and endorse where it costs less for the same product.
Second:
I strongly do not beleave a seat nor seat belt effects safty in any way and all safty is based on luck, timing and angle.
I have a friend who died because she was wearing a seat belt. The car hit a tree and the driver was ejected because he was not wearing a seat belt. Based on the angle he hit the ejection launced him into a ditch where he lived. The car caught fire and the passenger who was wearing the belt burned to death. He still hears the cries of his burning girl friend to this day.
So please enlighten me on how my choice of seat can save or end my life?
Please enlighten me then, how the hell would a seat save my life???

First:
A NRG seat is the same no matter where you get it so yes I support a compeating market and endorse where it costs less for the same product.
Second:
I strongly do not beleave a seat nor seat belt effects safty in any way and all safty is based on luck, timing and angle.
I have a friend who died because she was wearing a seat belt. The car hit a tree and the driver was ejected because he was not wearing a seat belt. Based on the angle he hit the ejection launced him into a ditch where he lived. The car caught fire and the passenger who was wearing the belt burned to death. He still hears the cries of his burning girl friend to this day.
So please enlighten me on how my choice of seat can save or end my life?
You can't be serious.
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Please advise of what stats your referring to? The NRG seats are the same from both vendors, furthermore this thread is not about certified seats and there stats that you claim have been un-biasedly tested to the seats being listed in this thread.
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Did not want to point it out to the entire forum but if your that blind I was referring to
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I have said it once and I will say it a million times, VeilSide = Overpriced POS
No wonder you want to tell people to not price shop/haggle vendors.
I have said it once and I will say it a million times, VeilSide = Overpriced POS

No wonder you want to tell people to not price shop/haggle vendors.
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I believe what everyone is trying to point out is that your Replica seats are likely cheap for the reason that they ARE NOT tested to an industry standard. By that standard (depending on the origin of testing and the government regulations regarding that standard) the seats are
stress tested (i.e. will they break from their mounting source. If impacted a certain way will the "cage" of the seat serve as a force distributing barrier or will it simply crumple around you?)
mechanics tested (i.e. will the gearing mechanism for the seat adjustment malfunction in a collision and pin you in your seat?)
and on and on and on and on it goes. These tests run into the 10-100K's dollars easily and that cost is distributed into the final cost of the seat.
Now I'm sure you will read all of that and still find fault in the reasoning. Considering you believe safety/seat belts to be a farce. Studies that have been done 100s upon 1000's upon MILLIONS of times show: They save lives 83% of the time. So, please, argue that statistic while trying to justify why you buy cheap seats against the better judgment of your peers and cold hard data.
oh and if yer still of the mind that faulty untested seats can't hurt you: http://www.seatbeltdefects.com/seatb...ure/index.html
I believe what everyone is trying to point out is that your Replica seats are likely cheap for the reason that they ARE NOT tested to an industry standard. By that standard (depending on the origin of testing and the government regulations regarding that standard) the seats are
stress tested (i.e. will they break from their mounting source. If impacted a certain way will the "cage" of the seat serve as a force distributing barrier or will it simply crumple around you?)
mechanics tested (i.e. will the gearing mechanism for the seat adjustment malfunction in a collision and pin you in your seat?)
and on and on and on and on it goes. These tests run into the 10-100K's dollars easily and that cost is distributed into the final cost of the seat.
Now I'm sure you will read all of that and still find fault in the reasoning. Considering you believe safety/seat belts to be a farce. Studies that have been done 100s upon 1000's upon MILLIONS of times show: They save lives 83% of the time. So, please, argue that statistic while trying to justify why you buy cheap seats against the better judgment of your peers and cold hard data.
oh and if yer still of the mind that faulty untested seats can't hurt you: http://www.seatbeltdefects.com/seatb...ure/index.html
Last edited by Z350Maniac; Mar 11, 2010 at 01:52 PM. Reason: spelling/mistake... and a link to some more data...
What I DO want to say is this,
A car can be a lethal weapon. I hope people realize that fact and DON'T choose a part simply because it is the cheapest. Safety and Quality should be very important things to look into when choosing a part for your car. This is for your safety, your passenger's safety, the guy across the street, and the family in the minivan next to you.
(This is just my opinion. I'm not trying to force it upon you.)
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I am very serious so please advise me how a seat is going to make me safer since that is all people want to take about and not the fact that EBAY is usually a better place to shop then our own vendors! Thats WTF I am posting about here, our vendors and the price of parts. Just ticks me off how people flame EBAY yet we can get the same gear cheaper and safer. After AI, ShowstoppersUSA and others we need to take a step back and ask our selfs if it is worth the hassle always. You should not dis EBAY you should only dis the no name brand BS that its flooded with and respect the rare finds or cheaper deals.



