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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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Unhappy Paint match gone wrong

Hello guys! i have an 35th aniv edition z silver stone and recently I changed the whole body kit to an oem nismo V3 kit from another nismo car.

The body shop needed to paint the whole kit since it was from a PPW car.


Now today the guys called me , to swing by shop urgently..they mocked up the kit and found the color is off...esp in certain light conditions....esp the rockers.

they said its because its plastic the color will be off..they are going to repaint it to match but still the guy said its going to off a little since its plastic and its normal....do u think he is correct..right now the color is really off and he said he will match it as near but not 100%

Now my sleep over weekend is gone!


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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Only way to get the color perfect to match ur car is for them to fade it in. Which involves them painting it along with some of ur car. Friend has a Subaru and the rear bumper color was off and that was the only real fix. Turned out good tho
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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Partially from plastic, and partially cause of the fade in you paint over time.

If you were to look at new Z's sitting on the dealer floor, the paint on the bumper never matches. Hell you can go look at a 370z and see it, some colors are more noticable than others.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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It's normal for the paint on plastic body parts to not match metal body parts... Like Terra said, even from the factory they don't match... But beware some shops suck at paint matching and will blame it on this...
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Take the car as is. Enjoy sleepover.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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Paint blending is NOT required for good color matching!!! Blend in is a practice that is discouraged because of paint peeling issues as the paint could not adhere properly to the clear coat. According to the Ford factory service manuals, Ford strictly warns against paint blending. It requires panels be painted entirely and individually. Furthermore, not many insurance companies are willing to pay for the extra cost of paint blending. A good painter should be able to match paint properly. Paint matching is now performed using a computer sensor.

Anyway, back to the point. Many parts on your car are made of various of different materials. The body is made of steel, hood out of aluminum, bumper panels out of urethanes, and side mirrors are made of plastic. Do you see a mismatch?

If the painter has done due diligence to match the paint, then he should ensure that they are using the right primer. Even if a paint matches perfectly, different primers can have a different result.

By the way, you mention that the body kit was previously painted. Most painters take short cut by sanding the old paint with 800 grit sandpaper, then spray on the new paint, without spraying any primer in between. THAT is the source of all mismatches of used body kits I personally see.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tyau
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Anyway, back to the point. Many parts on your car are made of various of different materials. The body is made of steel, hood out of aluminum, bumper panels out of urethanes, and side mirrors are made of plastic. Do you see a mismatch?
Yes, I do see a mismatch, on each and every car sitting on a dealer lot besides the black ones (that I can see). My white is easily a shade or two different going from plastic to metals, partly due to the flex agent, partly due to the material the paint is actually on.

This does not indicate a problem though, it's very difficult to get colors to match perfectly while moving over materials, especially when the colors are lighter. Proper blending can reduce this effect drastically, and usually does as long as you use a reputable shop.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 03:19 AM
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If the person knows how to paint, and has a good eye, he can match it! It's all in the prep work.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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My friend took his Nismo v2 front bumper to be matched at a shop - he has a PPW (notoriously hard to color match). When he took the car over he thought he would have to leave the vehicle with the front bumper in order for them to match it correctly, they told him he can just bring the car when it's ready to mount... I thought, wtf, no way they can do it without the car but I turned out to be very wrong. The bumper when installed was one of the best PPW color matches I have ever seen. I was very impressed with the work...

I guess what I'm try to get to is that it's all about experience and craftsmanship. The shop my friend took his bumper too (and now where I take my car too) has been around for 19 years, and the owner does the paint himself.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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I have a friend of mine who has a Lamborghini. While it was in having a clutch job, he told his guy to have the nose repainted. When we went over to pic up the car, it looked like he used Volkswagen yellow. He took the car as is and took it to a local guy. Two days and $500 later, it matched perfectly. That's what I was trying to say in my earlier post. By the way, silver is one of the hardest colors to match, because it isn't really a color, just metal suspended in clear. You can change the depth and reflection of it by simply changing the pressure when spraying.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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i had a new bumper painted and its lighter then rest of the car... shiat happens, its not noticeable until it gets dark though
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 05:40 AM
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My body shop had me take off and leave my gas cap cover with them so they could have an accurate visual of my cars paint color. It might help your shop...
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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I always leave the gas cap cover for better results, or even the car. Just make sure you dont get charge any additional fees. If things dont work out, lmk. I can refer you to my friends shop.

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