Seibon TS Style Hood *Pics* - anyone have in stock ?
He then told me that I was the only known one with this problem. As he stated in another one of this threads. Proof of his honesty to the customer. I forget who it was that created the thread, but he said he had 1 customer who might be having a slight problem but is being taken care of. That 1 customer was me.
For my part, I was never trying to deter anyone who really wants this hood, but I think it is false advertising to say that it is a perfect fit. You even say in your long post above and I quote...
I had to raise the latch about 1cm, just by unbolting 3 screws and slightly raising the latch. The hood then clicked and was closeable. The only problem was the left side was slightly higher than the right side. I could bearly squeeze my pinky between the left side where the hood meet the bumper Vs the Right side. I let Wicked know about this and he said he'll talk to Seibon about it and find out for me.
If Wicked had explained this in his posts (ie... "hood fits perfectly after some minor adjustments" or something like that), he'd probably not gotten so much flak. But he didn't, he said that it fit perfectly out of the box which simply is not true.
For the record, I'm getting tired of posting honest, customer reviews of parts for the Z only to have them thrown back in my face as an attack at particular business. I have no agenda and have done almost every mod to my car at my expense. So, I have nothing to gain by being dishonest. My money is already sunk into my mods... I'm just trying to save some other folks some headache. Sad that some people and businesses here cannot see that...
Wicked offered everyone a full refund. It is his policy to give 1-3 days to contact him to set up a return. It is not only me. He would not give me the choice and no one else.
Loco, I don't mean to be rude in previous post to you, I have no doubt you may be very successiful, hense the reason you are 21 with a Z and paying it youself.. I am merely saying that if you buy a modification, ANY modification, you should always be safe and have some money to spend if there any any issues to fix it. Modifying a car is never 100% perfect.. we all know that over time. With every modification I've done it's needed a little adjusting or tweeking. If this is a fitment issue, then I guess EVERY mod I've done has had a "fitment issue".
I understand how you can say raising the latch is a fitment issue since it doesn't just close naturally, but the fact that if you just raise the latch which takes 1 minute is such a big concern and a fitment issue - and reason for so much problems and such, then you should just return it.
Once again. Some of us had problems. Some of us didn't. Wicked told me before I bought it if there is any problems let him know and he'll either offer me a refund or work it out for me. If some of you had any issues, were unhappy in any way, I don't think you should blame Wicked, unless he refused a return. It was your choice (everyone who kept it, not singling anyone out), and it not Wicked's fault.
Also, Z1, I stand corrected, the TS did have some problems. I was under assumption that only VS had problems according to some posts.
Finally, mcduck, I stand corrected. Maybe you were the one he was implying about. The point is, Wicked in my opinion did not falsely advertise this product. He gave his information based on what he had seen and heard from review. His personal hood fit perfectly, his customer who bought from him in person (as stated in prior page) had NO problems, and BigBadBlackTrack also had no problems. Based on this, Wicked said there is no problems. Now if some of us come out with problems after that post when he was unaware of a fitment issue, it's not his fault for the prior advertising. It would be his fault if today he said there is no issue when a customer tried to buy it. If someone tried to buy the hood today and he said there is no problems, that's 100% wrong, since it's possible the buyer could encounter a problem, but might not, either way they should be aware.
All I'm saying is that I have a awesome experience with Wicked, and have become friends with him since my purchase. If anyone had a problem, they should have called him and worked it out instead of saying he is selling defective merchandise.
Once again, I didn't mean to offend anyone, but I do believe some of us do owe Wicked an apology for being so rude, and coming off more as "attacking" him that trying to work out an issue the proper way. Just my .02 cents.
Loco, I don't mean to be rude in previous post to you, I have no doubt you may be very successiful, hense the reason you are 21 with a Z and paying it youself.. I am merely saying that if you buy a modification, ANY modification, you should always be safe and have some money to spend if there any any issues to fix it. Modifying a car is never 100% perfect.. we all know that over time. With every modification I've done it's needed a little adjusting or tweeking. If this is a fitment issue, then I guess EVERY mod I've done has had a "fitment issue".
I understand how you can say raising the latch is a fitment issue since it doesn't just close naturally, but the fact that if you just raise the latch which takes 1 minute is such a big concern and a fitment issue - and reason for so much problems and such, then you should just return it.
Once again. Some of us had problems. Some of us didn't. Wicked told me before I bought it if there is any problems let him know and he'll either offer me a refund or work it out for me. If some of you had any issues, were unhappy in any way, I don't think you should blame Wicked, unless he refused a return. It was your choice (everyone who kept it, not singling anyone out), and it not Wicked's fault.
Also, Z1, I stand corrected, the TS did have some problems. I was under assumption that only VS had problems according to some posts.
Finally, mcduck, I stand corrected. Maybe you were the one he was implying about. The point is, Wicked in my opinion did not falsely advertise this product. He gave his information based on what he had seen and heard from review. His personal hood fit perfectly, his customer who bought from him in person (as stated in prior page) had NO problems, and BigBadBlackTrack also had no problems. Based on this, Wicked said there is no problems. Now if some of us come out with problems after that post when he was unaware of a fitment issue, it's not his fault for the prior advertising. It would be his fault if today he said there is no issue when a customer tried to buy it. If someone tried to buy the hood today and he said there is no problems, that's 100% wrong, since it's possible the buyer could encounter a problem, but might not, either way they should be aware.
All I'm saying is that I have a awesome experience with Wicked, and have become friends with him since my purchase. If anyone had a problem, they should have called him and worked it out instead of saying he is selling defective merchandise.
Once again, I didn't mean to offend anyone, but I do believe some of us do owe Wicked an apology for being so rude, and coming off more as "attacking" him that trying to work out an issue the proper way. Just my .02 cents.
Here's what it comes down to. Some people had problems. Some didn't. Some people who have the problems were able to resolve them easily, some weren't.
There is no point to arguing over this anymore. We all have had different situations.
Top it off, Seibon stopped making these hoods now. So no one else will have the hassel or pleasure of owning this hood for a long time to come. So for those are happy with it, great, for those who are not, if it's too late to return it, you can try to sell it off on ebay or such. I'm sure you'll get more than what you paid for dispite the fitment issue some of you are facing, especially this this hood isn't being manufactured..
I'm done posting and replying to this thread. Once again, I am sorry if I offended anyone, or seemed to attack someone, it was not my intent. I just hope we all can work our issues out for those who have some, and be happy that they have one of the very few (less than 15) hoods that were released..
There is no point to arguing over this anymore. We all have had different situations.
Top it off, Seibon stopped making these hoods now. So no one else will have the hassel or pleasure of owning this hood for a long time to come. So for those are happy with it, great, for those who are not, if it's too late to return it, you can try to sell it off on ebay or such. I'm sure you'll get more than what you paid for dispite the fitment issue some of you are facing, especially this this hood isn't being manufactured..
I'm done posting and replying to this thread. Once again, I am sorry if I offended anyone, or seemed to attack someone, it was not my intent. I just hope we all can work our issues out for those who have some, and be happy that they have one of the very few (less than 15) hoods that were released..
Last edited by Ricky; Apr 1, 2004 at 09:23 AM.
Now if some of us come out with problems after that post when he was unaware of a fitment issue, it's not his fault for the prior advertising.
Personally, I'm happy some people got their hoods and had no problems. Maybe Seibon can take one of those "perfect" hoods and refine production so they all come out that way.
Bottomline, when you do get the TS on your Z, it looks good as he!!. I can't wait to get my polished out and mounted. We had it on for a short while after it was painted, but the paint still has to cure a few more weeks before we can hit it with the show car polish. After that, look out!
I have an update on this issue. I was at the Suburu event over the weekend and I met up with the rep from Seibon. His name is Henry Shuff. Me and about 2-3 other people (z owners) were speaking to him about fitment issues. He asked me where I bought my hood from and I said Armando at Fusion. I then told him this story about the PROMISE that the HOODS fit with no issues. Adn quotes like we test fit the hoods before we sell them. He was not a happy camper. He was on the phone with his people and he is requesting a copy of thi slink to which I have sent him. He says that unfortunately we as a consumer have to deal with Fusion direct since we bought it from them. But he did make this one announcement. He says that he told Armando that the hoods were 'prototype hoods', and that there may be some fitment issues. But he did stress that these were prototypes. Needless to say this guy was pretty up front and very cool. After the show I let my hood down and guess what....it would not close. He came over to inspect the hood and we again had a long talk. He then got back on the phone and was taking care of business. He then came back and tried to help me get it to close. We both then decided that I should head over to the local nissan dealership to which they rigged my hood to close. In the end, I have a feeling that Henry and Armando are going to be having a very very.....very long talk about customer service issues. Good Luck to everyone....oh and by the way this note is in no way a dog or flame on Armando just an update to what I found out from the show.
well FWIW we were NOT told these were prototypes in any way. In fact, the "prototypes" were to be fitted tot he cars that were at SEMA as of alst Fall, with the production hoods arriving in late winter 04, whcih they did (came in at end of February).
I know I for one wold not have purchased it had I been told it was a prototype, and I deal directly with one of the owners at Seibon.
In any event, the hood can be made to fit, as I have said all along, it just takes some finagling. Some people may not want to go through that, and as such, I recommend you not buy it. Others do not mind as much about having to "make it fit". At the very least though, whatever camp you are in, I for one could not just "let is slide" as others seem to do - I am certainly not going to issue a guarantee unless I have FIRST HAND experience telling me or showing me such a guarantee is warrated.
Alll in all though, it does look sweet once fitted to the car (I have posted pics of my car with it painted in this forum), and I have no doubt that with hood pins, it would line up perfectly with the passenger side fender.
Adam
I know I for one wold not have purchased it had I been told it was a prototype, and I deal directly with one of the owners at Seibon.
In any event, the hood can be made to fit, as I have said all along, it just takes some finagling. Some people may not want to go through that, and as such, I recommend you not buy it. Others do not mind as much about having to "make it fit". At the very least though, whatever camp you are in, I for one could not just "let is slide" as others seem to do - I am certainly not going to issue a guarantee unless I have FIRST HAND experience telling me or showing me such a guarantee is warrated.
Alll in all though, it does look sweet once fitted to the car (I have posted pics of my car with it painted in this forum), and I have no doubt that with hood pins, it would line up perfectly with the passenger side fender.
Adam
I do agree. I have the hood also not the vs one though. I did have fitment issues.....btu i like it....here is a pic.
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