trodis

When was their last online activity?

ieatpelicans

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by way of update, i sent two emails on thursday (US time) and didnt get a response.

I have also lodged a complaint with PayPal.

I also emailed them a link to this thread.

ieatpelicans

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three emails and three international phone calls today and nothing in reply.

I'm really starting to wonder if CVR are in financial trouble.

ieatpelicans

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yes. but because CVR asked me to send the money as a personal payment, i can't make a claim for an item that wasn't delivered. I have asked them to reconsider, but i don't like my chances. An expensive lesson for me i guess.

That being said, i'm not giving up. i'm re-posting this thread on a new car forum for each day they don't pay.

dcains

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Oh man, NEVER use the PayPal personal payment option. But, even if you had sent a regular payment, the time limit for a complaint and refund is likely past. Good luck with this, and hopefully the vendor will do the right thing. Did you by any chance send the personal payment using a credit card (rather than a bank balance transfer)? If so, maybe the CC company can help.

dcains

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Another thought - Do you have any record of the vendor asking you to send a personal payment for the merchandise? That's probably a violation of PayPal's terms of service, especially for a business account (if that's what the vendor has), and perhaps PayPal can use that as a reason to back you up with a refund.

ieatpelicans

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no - the other mistake ive made. have set up my paypal so it comes off my mastercard now. i urge anyone else reading this to do the same.

and yes you're right: you have to challenge the transaction within 45 days. the only reason i didnt was because CVR kept saying they'd sent the exhaust.

ieatpelicans

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yes, ive got proof of that and ive told Paypal that they asked for personal payment.

sdZ33

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That's basically how the scam works... They brush you off for a certain ammount of time until it's to late to make a claim to paypal... Especially by giving you a fake tracking number so you can wait and wait, and they kill time by doing that...


I really do hope you get this sorted out OP... Can someone in NY pay these guys a visit?

dcains

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Well, that's something, and I'd let PayPal know the details. Might be your only possible chance. Sounds like the vendor is in financial trouble, though, which is a bad sign. No doubt you've been defrauded, but vendor may not have any funds in their PayPal account to attach.

davidv

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Maybe they are bankrupt and do not have any money.

AdvanZ33

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CVR Motorsports owner info (a little outdated but may be useful):

Registrant:
Christopher Rivera
4508 165 Street
Flushing, New York 11358
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: CVRMOTORSPORTS.COM
Created on: 25-Apr-04
Expires on: 25-Apr-06
Last Updated on: 22-Aug-04

Administrative Contact:
Rivera, Christopher CVRMotorsports@gmail.com
4508 165 Street
Flushing, New York 11358
United States
3472560142
Technical Contact:
Rivera, Christopher CVRMotorsports@gmail.com
4508 165 Street
Flushing, New York 11358
United States
3472560142

Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/CVRMotorSports

AdvanZ33

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Chris was active here 2 months ago, you should post your story here too:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=732241

The last 2 pages of that thread are interesting.

There's also a link to his myspace page under their profile name.

ieatpelicans

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well its nearly opening time there... ive just sent them another email, we'll see how we go today.

ieatpelicans

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i meant to say thanks for this info. i found him on facebook and sent him a msg.

trodis

Good work guys. Lets keep the pressure on these clowns. I will link this to a thread in the NE section to see if we can't get someone to swing by the shop that lives in NY.