Ok so I figure its time to play however I am super busy so I wont have the luxury of going to the perf shop every weekend to tweek stuff so I ask you my fellow Zbers ...which one do ya think is better for me to get ?

Keep in mind:
I want quik install ,
less time on maintenance
less check ups

I am torn...had turbo on another car before but it seemed like I was always at the shop

Holla back

 

Man, if you don't want to put much time into preventative maintenace FI isn't the way to go. I think either SC or TT will take time no matter which you pick. Just a lot of stuff that you need to make sure is safe on your Z. Good install mean the world and a mechanic that cares about both you and your Z is a must. That will help you in turn help you know what to look for before you go on a ride and just everyday use.

 

ditto

 

Thanks for the opinion - maybe I shouldnt have said quick install becuz I know there is nothing quick about either option. I think I really want less messing with the engine. When I got turbo on my civic .... OMG!!! .... I ended up spending crazy money - money I could have spent on.... oooh getting a Z/G earlier. I guess I got it just becuz and now I want to take my time and make sure what to do with the Z.

I have a good shop & mechanic I think... but its really down to WTH I want which obviously I am at a loss I need to take my time I suppose to make a decision before blowing through the christmas fund hehehehe

 

turbonetics - fast turbo install
any supercharger = fast install

 

I just bought the Stillen Stage 1 SC and I am having the Nissan Dealer install only because I bought the 3 yr warranty with it. I spoke to them and its a 12 hr job. If you have another car, you could do it over a week or so and it does not appear to be that difficult. I would of been able to do it myself easily and I do not have any other SC install expierence.

Just buy it.

 

^are you selling your crawford plenum?

 

Yeah, I will be selling it. I got it in July. I want to wait a couple of weeks after the install to make sure everything is right. Are you interested? Red.

 

yeah, PM me with a price and pics please, thanks.

 

You need to do a mild build up to run reliable FI on the Z. I'm talking at least rods, bearings, pistons and gaskets. If you insist on staying stock with only FI then let me suggest the HKS supercharger.

 

its pointless to do all that work without better pistons.

 

See that was what I am talking about. Before when I had the turbo installed , I had to evetually go back and do most of the mods you refered to ...and yes pistons are a must given those circumtances. I guess thus far 2:1 in favor of SC ....awaiting more feedback on maybe something I am missing or just flat out dont know. Thanks for ringing in on my post

Still wondering....

 

For me it has really come down to Cash and someone to install. There is only one shop in the entire area that can install the Greddy and they take forever. I would not attempt that myself. I plan to upgrade the Stillen to Stage 2 or 3 within a couple of years. Then I will rebuild. Maybe a new engine if I still am interested. So for now based on price and company history and the dealer willing and eager to install at a cheap price and the warranty for the engine and trans, I chose the SC of course biased to the Stillen. Although some power gains are bigger with the TT, I ask where does it end?

 

Axion, I will take some pictures of the plenum after the temp gets about -8 degrees. Man its cold.

 

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i was gonna go turbo, then SC and after really thinking about it, I think I'm gonna go the nitrous route

I daily drive my car and I gotta say at least about 70% of the time I don't have an opportunity to accelerate any faster or go faster than traffic. So why should I have a TT or SC on 100% of the time wearing out my engine?

With nitrous, I can just buy 2 or 3 bottles so I only have to do refills about once a month or so. It's only on when you want it on. You can easily remove it when need be. It's cheap and doesn't need hardly the same level of maintenence etc.

 

I have the APS TT kit sitting in my living room under the X-Mas tree. Definately not the option for anyone wishing for an "quick" intall. However APS is developing a single turbo option to directly compete ( price / install time ) with super charger applications. Turbonetics should have their single turbo kit out also. Being in Florida you should not have to worry about C.A.R.B. Certification for these kits as they will likely have no chance at obtaining it.
I think turbos give you more of a "rush" with the torque they produce. I had a chance to drive an APS 350Z and it was a thrill. Its still debatable at this point which will produce more of a "headache" on our Z....a single turbo or super-charger. Upkeep and expenses on our Z with increase not doubt with any F.I. application.
One last point on wear and tear on the engine. When I was driving the APS Z you could bearly hear any differance from a stock Z. The engine was even the same operating temp. Of course once I got on the pedal did I hear and FEEL the differance. The turbos are dormant as well as the " wear and tear " until you step on it. That is when your engine will endure F.I. strain. Gas milage on this car was the same as stock I was told... only being affected of course while going into boost.

 

I went the NA route cause I don't want to get into risky power on my daily driver car until I at least have a 2nd car (lotus elise coming soon)

I feel I need to become a better driver on the track before I "need" more power. But I think I'll do nitrous, then build up the engine to handle more nitrous and then I can go FI if I so choose and hopefully it'll be more reliable. I also am just not sure of long range FI on this engine - is anyone? The Z is still fairly new.

I figure by the time I'm ready to do FI, there will be more knowledge and parts available to give me a more reliable car. In the meantime though, NA is fine for me

 

hello. Yeah, I agree, FI wouldn't be the way to go really. If anything, I'd go with a supercharger. Turbo's always seem to run into issues down the line. I'd say one of these two kits, either HKS, or Stillen, due to reliability, and drivability.
Stillen would be pick no.1 for me, but it's up to you if you can deal with the hood and strut bar etc...
if not, hks is the way to go.

 

HKS is a great kit from what I hear, but only if you keep the car stock. From what I understand it doesn't wanna factor in other mods very well.

I like the vortech SC