Turbo vs Supercharger
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Turbo vs Supercharger
I'm pretty sure this question came up before, but what is better, a turbocharger or supercharger. I know that the turbo will give you more horsepower, but the supercharger gives you instant power of the line? any suggestions?????
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turbo car handle jsut sucks
I have to say turbo car is great on straight line or most US highway. But for a turbo FR, it take a great racer to handle it on a track. S/C is more friendly to 99.9% of us. Especially if you want to tune your car beyond 500hp range, turbo lag is unbearable for track racing.
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Originally posted by Diskus
Does anybody know of any good supercharger systems??? or i guess maybe turbo, does nismo make turbo or super?? thanks for all the info
Does anybody know of any good supercharger systems??? or i guess maybe turbo, does nismo make turbo or super?? thanks for all the info
70 to 80 hp increase
Turbo will look cooler with the intercooler in the front
Maybe Vortech may make something
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Originally posted by TheFuture
Stillen is making one for a Jan 2003 release, I think
70 to 80 hp increase
Turbo will look cooler with the intercooler in the front
Maybe Vortech may make something
Stillen is making one for a Jan 2003 release, I think
70 to 80 hp increase
Turbo will look cooler with the intercooler in the front
Maybe Vortech may make something
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true, can you use an intercooler for a supercharger, does anybody know, as much as i know they only use them on turbo chargers. PLus you would probably have to get a new front bumber and everything to get some room for the intercooler, whats stillens website, do they have something on the 350z yet?
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Yes, you can use an intercooler on superchargers. They create lots of heat too. The cooler you can get the intake air, the denser the air will be with more oxygen and, therefore make more horsepower.
By the way, there are plenty of twin turbos out there ripping up the tracks. RX7s, 300ZXs, and Supras do extremely well on autocrosses since they are TWIN TURBOs. One turbo spools up at low rpms and quickly builds boost for the second turbo to take over. The second turbo then builds mad boost all the way to redline and thereby, basically eliminates trubo lag.
I personally don't like the whine from supercharger belts and the potential for more horsepower and torque is easily there for turbos. If the system is well made, and I'm sure Greddy and other reputable companies will do that, then you don't have anything to worry about if you follow their boost level settings.
By the way, there are plenty of twin turbos out there ripping up the tracks. RX7s, 300ZXs, and Supras do extremely well on autocrosses since they are TWIN TURBOs. One turbo spools up at low rpms and quickly builds boost for the second turbo to take over. The second turbo then builds mad boost all the way to redline and thereby, basically eliminates trubo lag.
I personally don't like the whine from supercharger belts and the potential for more horsepower and torque is easily there for turbos. If the system is well made, and I'm sure Greddy and other reputable companies will do that, then you don't have anything to worry about if you follow their boost level settings.
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just my opinion but I think that the 350 has decent bottom end torque and the torque fall off on the high end. I think that a supercharger will give the 350 almost too much bottom end torque and maybe make the butt tend to slide around. A turbo on the other hand will add gobs of high end torque, where the Z needs more power. My choice would be to go au naturale. Port and polish, blueprint, lighter and stonger rods and pistons, and crank and maybe stroke it to 3.6 or 3.7
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Originally posted by Zeromancer
By the way, there are plenty of twin turbos out there ripping up the tracks. RX7s, 300ZXs, and Supras do extremely well on autocrosses since they are TWIN TURBOs. One turbo spools up at low rpms and quickly builds boost for the second turbo to take over. The second turbo then builds mad boost all the way to redline and thereby, basically eliminates trubo lag.
By the way, there are plenty of twin turbos out there ripping up the tracks. RX7s, 300ZXs, and Supras do extremely well on autocrosses since they are TWIN TURBOs. One turbo spools up at low rpms and quickly builds boost for the second turbo to take over. The second turbo then builds mad boost all the way to redline and thereby, basically eliminates trubo lag.
I was under the impression that cars which use sequentially activated turbos use two different sizes of turbo: a smaller one to spool up quick and provide the low rpm boost, and a large one to spool up later and provide the large volume of air needed for boost at high rpms.
Maybe I'm missing something, but having two identical turbos in a sequential configuration doesn't make much sense to me. Cars like the Audi S4 use two identical turbos, but they are not sequential; they both spin up simultaneously. The benfit with this is that you can use two small turbos rather than one large turbo, and smaller turbos spin up faster than large turbos.
Are you sure that the cars you mentioned above use a sequential turbo config? Or are they simply identical turbos spinning up simultaneously? I personally don't know... just want to make sure. This is something I've never been sure of.
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The RX-7 (Wankel) and Supra (I-6) use sequential turbos, one small, one large. The small spools up first, then the second spools up and the first shuts down.
The 300ZX-TT (V6) and 300GT-VR4 (V6) use parallel turbos, same size. Each turbo feeds one bank of 3 cylinders.
The 300ZX-TT (V6) and 300GT-VR4 (V6) use parallel turbos, same size. Each turbo feeds one bank of 3 cylinders.
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Originally posted by pdtsyzygy
The RX-7 (Wankel) and Supra (I-6) use sequential turbos, one small, one large. The small spools up first, then the second spools up and the first shuts down.
The 300ZX-TT (V6) and 300GT-VR4 (V6) use parallel turbos, same size. Each turbo feeds one bank of 3 cylinders.
The RX-7 (Wankel) and Supra (I-6) use sequential turbos, one small, one large. The small spools up first, then the second spools up and the first shuts down.
The 300ZX-TT (V6) and 300GT-VR4 (V6) use parallel turbos, same size. Each turbo feeds one bank of 3 cylinders.
Thanks for the info regarding the different cars. That makes more sense, especially given the engine layouts. On a V engine, it seems like configuring sequential turbos would be a major pain (since the exhaust manifolds are on either side of the engine). It would take some creative plumbing! On inline and rotary engines, though, sequentials seem much more understandable since their is only one exhaust manifold.
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The RX-7 (Wankel) and Supra (I-6) use sequential turbos, one small, one large. The small spools up first, then the second spools up and the first shuts down.
The 300ZX-TT (V6) and 300GT-VR4 (V6) use parallel turbos, same size. Each turbo feeds one bank of 3 cylinders.
The RX-7 (Wankel) and Supra (I-6) use sequential turbos, one small, one large. The small spools up first, then the second spools up and the first shuts down.
The 300ZX-TT (V6) and 300GT-VR4 (V6) use parallel turbos, same size. Each turbo feeds one bank of 3 cylinders.
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Anybody know if there is even enough room for a twin turbo?? Who would make a twin turbo?
I'll tell you what guys, colorado suckssss, there is like nothing for cars up here, gotta do everything by yourself, plus the roads are terrible to drive on, lol, if ya got some 19" ya better be watching those potholes, oh well moving to LA over the summer,
I'll tell you what guys, colorado suckssss, there is like nothing for cars up here, gotta do everything by yourself, plus the roads are terrible to drive on, lol, if ya got some 19" ya better be watching those potholes, oh well moving to LA over the summer,
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Originally posted by Diskus
Anybody know if there is even enough room for a twin turbo?? Who would make a twin turbo?
Anybody know if there is even enough room for a twin turbo?? Who would make a twin turbo?