I built the car at my shop.

Labor for the entire build was just over $3500.

The rest of the costs are for parts involved and other expenses unrelated to labor. I will post the whole invoice in minute.

BTW guys the M&Ms was a joke, obviously.

 

 

$1300 Machine Shop Bill is not under my control... what we pay a top notch machine shop is what we pay a top notch machine shop. Why would I personally pay for the machining out of pocket?

Oil has been changed a few times during break in. Gasoline has been added a few times during breakin before tuning. I did not charge for any of the time the car spent on my dyno... but why would I pay GRD for using their shop to tune? I would love to tune it inhouse myself but I am not a unichip dealer, and I certainly have no reason to pay for the time spent on their dyno out of my own pocket, do I?

I have all the reciepts, even the receipts for the gasoline, and it was not marked up a single penny... I did tho put 2 bags of peanut M&Ms on the same transaction! Maybe that was unfair?

So if there is anything on there that you guys think I should pay for out of my own pocket with the $3500 or so in labor, by all means, speak up.

 

better to pay now than later......didn't he get an estimate first? I agreee, however, that you get what you pay for. Except M&M's

 

You know, I don't want to demean mechanics at all here but $7000 to work on a car to me is unbelieveable. I went to school for 30 years and I don't get that much for three total hip replacements from Medicare!

 

Based on email conversations between us today, there seems to be that there was a misunderstanding on verbal estimates before starting the job. I am a grand over in labor then he thought I was going to be... then everything beyond the $3500-3600 in labor I guess I was supposed to buy.

 

Speaking out of ignorance only demeans yourself, not the mechanics. Read the whole thread.

 

Well in fairness I bet you get more then $70/hr which is the typical labor rate for shops.

That job as I see it took probably a week and a half of work so billed hours it should be $4000+. Looks like $3500 labor it not out of reason plus the machine work and all the parts needed to do the job.

My bill at our shop would have probably been a little higher.

 

I don't expect anything. I am asking for opinions.

Jeff

 

I don't if he is highly recommended but if he is then that install is about right. Those with the APS installed know. Good point someone made that the GReddy install is cheaper. Well look how many failures you have maybe that has something to do with it. Ive seen one of these cheap Greddy installs. I think tuning should of been included however on the invoice.

 

Okay, after reviewing the invoice, the price is definately fair. I mean, for example when you listed gauges Jak, it probably takes at least 1hour per gauge to install including its sensors. That right there could eaisely add 2-300 bucks depending on the number of gauges and the locations you want them in.

Overall, you got a good deal!

 

The reason the greddy installs are cheaper, is because there is less stuff to install. Such as the fuel system.

 

did they Knife-Edge your crank shaft?

did they sleeve your block?

what all did they do for that ?

 

if you only install the kit then its no big deal... but it sounds like he had a full engine re-build with lower compression pistons / stronger rods... etc... was NOT just a Bolt On install...

 

read the invoice posted above. there was no knife edge or sleeving done. you can see every item that was done for that expensive on the invoice posted above.

 

what exactly was done in the short block machining process there?

 

I am glad that charles posted the install invoice. Because in your original post Jak, this is not a fair post to say the cost is 7k and only say they installed an APS kit and some pistons, rods,....and the fact is you did not provide all the parts. You may have only provided the big stuff like rods and pistons, but its a fact of life that in big jobs like this, the little stuff will always nickel and dime you to death.

Once again, you got a good deal!

 

I notice the invoice states tuning is free... that would be a great deal :-)

$1500 for APS install? Not bad either...

Oh, I noticed TS Flash. What is it for when it comes to installing the APS kit?

There's no reputable/certified APS installer/tuner where I live :-(

 

The invoice states that IN-HOUSE dyno testing and tuning is free... but since I am not a unichip dealer we are going to be taking his car to a shop called GRD, which is (i think) owned by Tuan, Zero2Prove. Their shop is local and Tuan and I were going to tune the car together on Monday which is why it says Not Applied.

 

Originally posted by barthelb
I don't if he is highly recommended but if he is then that install is about right. Those with the APS installed know. Good point someone made that the GReddy install is cheaper. Well look how many failures you have maybe that has something to do with it. Ive seen one of these cheap Greddy installs. I think tuning should of been included however on the invoice.

My original post was to a response barthelb made about GReddy kits are cheaper to install because of the quality of the kit. I was trying to point out to bartheelb that its not the quality of the kit, its the fact that the APS kit has more stuff to install.

My comments were not directed towards Jak's specific job.