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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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loosing grip, the only thing is, what you want to do with your car in the future... if around 400 rwhp is enough for you, you dont need tuneability of an emanage or unichip. The reflash makes sure that your AFR is perfect and you can just slowly upgrade little parts of your engine that people seem to say are weaks parts. oilpans etc etc. i mean if your not looking at 400-600 hp turbonetics outa the box just seems like a very good low cost alternative... compared to lets say... greddy. i just think theyve blown to many engines for my buiness.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Yes stock boost is 8 PSI and they do reflash the your stock ECU..
seems a little high for me. at that psi i think it should be making more power. this leads me to beleive the turbonetics turbo is straining under those conidtions. have u seen figures of a greddy kit at 8psi?

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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Losing Grip II
seems a little high for me. at that psi i think it should be making more power. this leads me to beleive the turbonetics turbo is straining under those conidtions. have u seen figures of a greddy kit at 8psi?

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8 PSI from two turbos is a lot different then 8 PSI from one... For reference the APS single Turbo kit is making 386 RWHP at 8.5 PSI...

Turbonetics Single Turbo: 8 PSI 11:1 AFR 386 RWHP on 91 gas

APS Single Turbo: 8.5 PSI 11.5:1 AFR 386 RWHP 94 gas

Greddy: 5.6 PSI 360-380 RWHP ???? AFR 91 gas


The Turbonetics turbo is by NO means straining. Actually it has a lot of room to make a LOT more power...

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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fernandito7
i just think that the aps is more complete because it comes with an upgraded fuel pump, new fuel system return line or something like that...and the fact that i have not heard anyone having problems with this kit. I strongly believe that the unichip is way more superior than the emanage. My installer told me that the unichip is way user friendly than the emanage. Also no cutting into the Z's ecu as with the emanage. The unichip just clips on to the ecu's harness. Also i just think that APS really had more time to R&D their kit and fixed some problems that both greddy and PE had when they released thier kits.
see this is where i have conflicting evidence about this kit. first off let me say i love the APS kit, however, the Unichip i HATE, yes i HATE it. i had the Unichip installed on my S2000 and Supra before i bought my Z. the Unichip was known for "losing its tune" and would actually fight regularly with my S2000's ECU and with my Supra, it required constant tuning and retuning to ensure i was putting my 400+whp to the ground. on one occasion i actually had to replace the ECU in the S2000 all together (i mean unchip). Today both Unichips are gone and both have AEM standalone units.

do you know if the Unichip has been revised to fix problems similar to the ones i have mentioned above? it would make sens to "think" they did since APS uses it on their system, but how do we all know that this wasn;t an easy way and inexpesive way for APS to sell the kit? Anyone out there with some insight on this or with an APS kit?

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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
8 PSI from two turbos is a lot different then 8 PSI from one... For reference the APS single Turbo kit is making 386 RWHP at 8.5 PSI...

Turbonetics Single Turbo: 8 PSI 11:1 AFR 386 RWHP on 91 gas

APS Single Turbo: 8.5 PSI 11.5:1 AFR 386 RWHP 94 gas

Greddy: 5.6 PSI 360-380 RWHP ???? AFR 91 gas


The Turbonetics turbo is by NO means straining. Actually it has a lot of room to make a LOT more power...
you replied FAST

anyhow can you explain how 8psi is different on a single from a twin turbo system? i am confused.

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btw: whats the high boost possible out the turbonetics single?
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Originally Posted by FairladyZ
If your going F/I make sure you have extra cash to pay for any problems that arise. Including the worst possible senario blown motor. Your car is a daily driver I would bet that most of the cars that are F/I arent actually daily drivers like your will be. They have alternate cars they can drive.

Also do you plan on getting any other car? You instant lose any mod money you put into the car, also being the car is F/I it will be a lot harder to sell. Just some thoughts.
i have two other cars. a blown motor senario is possible, but thats why im looking for the THEE most reliaable and most freindly motor turbo kit.

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Originally Posted by Losing Grip II
you replied FAST

anyhow can you explain how 8psi is different on a single from a twin turbo system? i am confused.

thanks,
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btw: whats the high boost possible out the turbonetics single?
Higher cfm output/efficiency..

I believe that maintaining a high efficiency the highest boost I'd run on the 60-1 would be 20 PSI. After that I'd think about going with a 62-1 or T66.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Higher cfm output/efficiency..

I believe that maintaining a high efficiency the highest boost I'd run on the 60-1 would be 20 PSI. After that I'd think about going with a 62-1 or T66.
you make me soo h****Y when you talk like that

hahaha j/k

anyhow, what safety equipment do you have?

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Originally Posted by Losing Grip II
you make me soo h****Y when you talk like that

hahaha j/k

anyhow, what safety equipment do you have?

john
As of now just a helmet and some soon to be upgraded brakes... Eventually a harness bar and some 5 points will come into play but thats down the line...
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
As of now just a helmet and some soon to be upgraded brakes... Eventually a harness bar and some 5 points will come into play but thats down the line...
what type of brakes are you going with?

has the greddy kit blown many motors since its release? what has been some of the majors probs. associated with buying a greddy kit and blwoing your motor? i mean, what about the greddy kit causes engine failure?

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Originally Posted by Losing Grip II
what type of brakes are you going with?

has the greddy kit blown many motors since its release? what has been some of the majors probs. associated with buying a greddy kit and blwoing your motor? i mean, what about the greddy kit causes engine failure?

thanks,

john
For now just some upgraded rotors, pads, and lines... Very soon looking to get the 4 wheels Willwood kit.... As for the Greddy kit yes there have been a LOT of failures most of it is due to the kit being improperly tuned of course they also have probably the most amount of kits on the road so far.
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